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This is a complete myth. You cannot name a single hymn that came from a tavern song. Here is an essay about this accusation against the Wesleys by someone who did the research you could have done: Wesleys' Tavern Songs Here is another about the charge that Luther used drinking songs: Which Of...

I completely agree. You have to love the Babylon Bee.

Actually, the comic is very true of any type of music: folk, classical, hymns, CCM, all music (but I meant it just for fun). You must practice to play well, and the guy in the comic did not. You must think deeply to write the lyrics (are they biblical, helpful, glorifying God?). You must think...

1 Tim. 5:19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses. 20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

Here we are nowadays.

"Elder rule" is having pastors, deacons, and elders, and the "elders" are the ones who actually lead the church. The pastor is usually the "teaching elder," and does not lead the church. John Mac's church works that way, supposedly. As for "deacon rule," nope, they are servants (the meaning of...

Actually, the NKJV doesn't "translate" hades but transliterates it. However, there are places where the KJV correctly translates hades as "Hell," such as Luke 16, where the rich man is tormented in fire. That could be nothing other than Hell. The correct meaning is determined by context, of course.

I have to go. Taking first aid lessons for our security team. Hmm.

This is right after the post where I said that country gospel ("Southern Gospel" is part of that genre, developed in the early 20th century) is a lot older than CCM, and should not be included. I have a set of three Singspiration songbooks from the 1960s (no copyright date) with the title...

"You must have completely missed my Post #35 in this thread." Oops, that's what I wrote first, but then I saw that you are trying to answer my post. But then you are not answering it. You seem to have totally missed my meaning. For crying out loud, bring the homeless and poor people to church...

Good post! Kind of like, if a tree fell in a forest and nobody heard it.... This goes back to my youth. I rejected the hard rock songs categorically, but not on religious grounds. It just didn't make sense to me to try to understand something that hard to hear. Side note: There is a Japanese...

My son truly hates that song for your stated reasons. I'd call "I'll Fly Away" more of a country gospel song. Amen! But that stuff is really hard to listen to. I never can make out their lyrics. Well said. Cows should never be allowed in a church service. :Biggrin Good post.

Singing with my guitar, that song was my first church special number! Love it! Not CCM, but not really a hymn, either. More of a Christian folk song--and there was some controversy about that in the 1960's. Should we allow folk songs in the church? :Thumbsdown Our youth group had a great book of...

No problem! Here is our college and seminary: Baptist College of Ministry - Menomonee Falls, WI

I asked. I didn't state. It's much more polite to make a query rather than declare, "This is what you believe..." or simply assume what someone thinks. I wouldn't include country music as CCM. It has a much longer history, and has been a genre of its own far before CCM was invented. And the...

We have a Burmese Baptist student in our seminary right now!

That's semantically what you said before. Please define rock. What are the musical characteristics? So, you can't define rock. And again, stop putting words in my mouth. You did it again!!! I have not yet defined rock until this post. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but you don't seem to have any...

Very true. In fact, I seem to recall that for a while in the early church they did not allow musical instruments. But I have no trouble saying we can follow Psalm 150 as is. In our church we have an orchestra, including various stringed instruments (sans guitar, which however has appeared...

Japan closely follows any American trend. In medicine, for example, they are usually about ten years behind the US, and they send doctors to the US to learn the latest science. Just so in Christianity. I remember when CCM started to become popular in Japan, and it took a while for them to figure...

Okay. You missed the point completely. I DID NOT SAY THAT THEIR CLOTHES SHOWED THEIR SPIRITUAL STATE. It does not. Often a new believer (whatever their clothing) is closer to God than some well-dressed saint. My point was that spiritual growth can result in a better situation for a person after...