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Um, no, I didn't endorse the Drifters or any other group in the songs sung by Under the Streetlamp. I was simply pointing out one more group (UTS) that wears suits in our culture. Please stop twisting my words and trying to make me say more than I have. Exactly!! And why do they wear suits? To...

Oh, stop it. I did not say that clothing was a needed part of discipling someone. You twisted my words.

This is true about the NT, but we do have hints in the OT. When you look at the lists of instruments used to praise God in the temple orchestra, there is no drum, though the Egyptians had drums. (Caveat: there were, however, percussion instruments.) Again, in Psalm 150 we are given a list of...

When culture changes, music changes, and not always for the better. The pattern nowadays in pop music is the slide, and it is not good music. Again, vibrato has mostly gone by the wayside. Also, the lyrics are frequently filthy, especially in rap. Go ahead and defend it if you wish, but you'll...

I refuse, with my Greek scholar friend, to say that rap is music. It has no melody, which is essential in music. It is poetry, yes, one element of music. But without melody it is not music. The Bible even teaches this: Isa 23:16 Take an harp, go about the city, thou harlot that hast been...

I wonder how many secular pop groups over the last three decades are worth hearing. I've tried listening to modern pop music and abandoned it many times. Musically they are almost all awful. The thing about the early pop music is that it was musically good, and was sung correctly--diaphragm, not...

But suits/sport coats still mean something, or lawyers, federal agents, preachers, etc., would not still wear them.

;) But you said you did.

I like it when they keep the whole rock band in a different building. :Biggrin On our last furlough the wife and I visited a supporting church that had previously been traditional but had gone to pure rock, with a 60s format band: rhythm guitar, lead guitar, bass guitar and drums. The problem...

Then there is this music group, great fun if you like the 1960s. All in suits, as it happens. ;)

I've already said this in a different way. I don't know what a "Tag" or a "Patek" are. Discussing what modesty is would take a whole nother thread. I'm not sure I want to participate--the fall semester starts very soon. But the Greek word only occurs twice in the NT (1 Tim. 2:9 and 3:2). Here...

So you do still wear a suit sometimes. Interesting.

Thank you for posting this, ljm14! Adoniram Judson is one of my missionary heroes. God used him in a very unexpected way to reach the Karen tribespeople when he was aiming at the Burmese (and of course he saw many of them saved too)! We have had several of the spiritual heirs of Judson's...

A sport coat and a tie. Oh, yes, and pants! :Biggrin But I love ties with a message and have some of those, including two with "Faith, Hope, Love" in Chinese and English. If you come in our church modestly dressed, you will be warmly welcomed with no criticism. There's Scripture for that, as...

@ anyone Just went to a memorial service for an old friend, Harry. They had the actual funeral elsewhere, but allowed us to have a memorial service because we were Harry's church. Harry was a unique individual: a Marine, a salesman, a faithful church member and usher, one-armed (cancer in his...

This whole answer was aimed at Jon, rather than you. He aimed his post at you with the @ mark, but I had been discussing the subject with him, and simply chimed in, thinking Jon was answering me, since I had been dialoguing with him over the subject you talked about. Hey, I'm 73. We're allowed...

This is oversimplification. What any church needs to grow is fostering relationships and winning souls through the power of the Holy Spirit. It is not the style of music, nor whether the pastor and deacons wear a suit or not, etc. I have told how our church has a lot of folks wearing suits and...

The wife and I are on a road trip vacation, and I'm at my sister's in Cincy. She has MSNBC on, some kind of news show. The two men both have suits/sport coats on, but only one has a necktie. Hmmm. :Coffee

Too much information!! :oops: Yes, requesting.

I agree. And it is not Baptistic, either.