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  1. John of Japan

    What doctrines in a local church would cause you to now leave if adopted?

    Any Charismatic doctrine, TULIP, inerrant translation, elder rule instead of pastoral leadership
  2. John of Japan

    Cultural Standards

    Better than an indecent shirt! :Biggrin Just now watching a clip on YouTube from Britain's Got Talent. The competitor in the clip and one of the judges both are wearing suits. So I guess a suit is good enough to show respect on a TV show, but not in God's house.... :Coffee
  3. John of Japan

    Cultural Standards

    Many others wear suits besides businessmen in the States: lawyers, counselors, profs, pastors, etc. etc. (We retired from the mission field 11 years ago, and I am a Bible college prof now.) 1. In the first place, it's not a business suit to me. I've never thought of it as a business suit, and...
  4. John of Japan

    Cultural Standards

    Simply going into a Buddhist temple or Shinto shrine is not what I am talking about. Actually participating in a pagan festival is idolatry. Simply going into their building is not. I've been in both a Buddhist temple (the mission director from the States wanted to see one) and a Shinto shrine...
  5. John of Japan

    Cultural Standards

    The best Scripture for this issue, IMO, is 1 Cor. 10:32, "Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God." So the standard for a Christian in many of these issues is to avoid giving offense to the people in the culture one is trying to reach (Context: 1...
  6. John of Japan

    Fundamentalism, How to describe it

    Save your knees for your wife, please.
  7. John of Japan

    Fundamentalism, How to describe it

    Very ugly. Men's knees should never be seen in public, much less with a coat and tie.
  8. John of Japan

    Fundamentalism, How to describe it

    Very interesting. Thank you. Truly weird. But as a kid I was made to wear a wool suit with short pants. Then I grew out of it, right? But I had an older brother and got all of his hand-me-downs. Confused
  9. John of Japan

    Fundamentalism, How to describe it

    I am positive a T shirt is not appropriate professional attire in many professions: medical, legal, law enforcement (Secret Service and FBI wear suits), etc. Look at the lawyers on this Youtube link after I just searched "lawyer": https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lawyer. Suits...
  10. John of Japan

    Fundamentalism, How to describe it

    I was speaking historically, trying to help you or other readers understand what happened to evangelicalism in the 1950s. To me knowing that history explains a lot about the movement in 2025. You must be kidding. A T shirt for $800??? See, I can't understand this. We're going to go our...
  11. John of Japan

    Fundamentalism, How to describe it

    I don't believe I said on this thread anything about a suit and tie. I wear a suit and tie to church because I'm on the staff of the college the church has. But I don't believe a suit and tie are necessary for the typical church goer. Some of our deacons just wear a collar shirt, and I'm fine...
  12. John of Japan

    Fundamentalism, How to describe it

    Okay, done with that. There's no such thing as "evangelical clothing." That wasn't my meaning. I simply meant evangelical used to think it was good to wear decent clothing to church to honor the Lord. And I don't think I ever said anything about casual clothing to church being "an invention of...
  13. John of Japan

    Piedmont U.--No Longer Christian?

    Yep, that's the one.
  14. John of Japan

    Fundamentalism, How to describe it

    Okay. But not my experience, and certainly not the church I am in now. Absolutely wrong. This incident fits the theological definition of legalism, because it assigns a moral equivalent to clothing. That is exactly theological legalism. So I'm thinking you still don't understand what I've been...
  15. John of Japan

    Fundamentalism, How to describe it

    That's a lot of sadness.
  16. John of Japan

    Fundamentalism, How to describe it

    Sorry, I'm in a session and can't answer this right now. Hopefully later. But I will just say that the "cultural" use of "legalism" is an illegitimate and pejorative usage. In other words, it is used in popular culture to accuse and confuse, not to dialogue.
  17. John of Japan

    Fundamentalism, How to describe it

    Oh, yes, that's a compliment, comparing the fundamentalist to a Pharisee. :( No, I never said this and don't agree with it. I don't know where you got that, but it was not from me. And I never talked about "new evangelism," but "New Evangelicalism"--a huge difference. You don't know 20th...
  18. John of Japan

    Fundamentalism, How to describe it

    Personal separation is for the purpose of keeping me from sin. Therefore, for example, modesty (on men and women) keeps from lust. Not watching movies (c. f. John R. Rice and others writing against them back in the 1940s-1950s is to avoid being influenced by copious alcohol use, existentialism...
  19. John of Japan

    Fundamentalism, How to describe it

    The paper I'm listening to being presented now makes the point that all of the early church fathers taught that women always should have a head covering, and not wearing a head covering was immodest. Guess Irenaeus, Tertullian, and all those guys were legalists, eh?
  20. John of Japan

    Fundamentalism, How to describe it

    But isn't Paul appealing? And Peale appalling!
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