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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    I see you are yet without spiritual eyesight on these matters. You are consistent indeed! Wrong, but consistent
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    ALL MEN To Be SAVED (1 Timothy 2:1-6)

    Yes BF, this is so clear that everyone should praise God for this right now! Thanks for posting this wonderful truth!
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    You seem to read it wrong each time. God elects a multitude of lost sinners and transforms them into saints who bear the fruit thereof.
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    Yes, that is part of the GOOD WORKS that God has ordained that we walk in them Eph2;10
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    God coming to man, does not free man to come on His own! The gospel of the kingdom cannot be welcomed until and unless The Spirit of God draws the man savingly, giving the new heart Ezk.36:25 speaks of! Let me know if you see the difference yet. Jesus spoke to multitudes, he came to them...
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    No Ben, wrong again! It does not say God caused it. It does not say God made them sin! this is why you miss it by a mile, another swing and a miss, my friend. From vines nt dictionary; Ordain [ 1,,G5087, tithemi ] to put: See APPOINT, No. 3. [ 2,,G2525, kathistemi ] from kata, down," or "over...
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    Are you reading the posts? You have not seen them say, that man comes to God first, then they ...become elect? Man comes to Jesus first...then they get the Spirit! You can see it everyday if you look
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    You, Van, and Silverhair, have offered that very thing when you deny the effectual call of God in salvation, and when you suggest men come to God savingly, FIRST, THEN THEY GET THE SPIRIT! In that scenario, is God just a spectator, waiting to see what man does? Then He reacts to man's "free will...
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    Calling me names will not change your mistaken view into truth Ben No, your post blames God for mans sin, because you do not understand the term ordained! This suggests you do not know what determinism is! No, not at all! let me ask you Ben- Are there things that happen that your god has not...
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    They are those who deny the last part of 14:6 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. They are those who say man can come on their own, apart from the effectual work of God.
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    37818, They do not believe this verse as written! They are saying that men can come all by themselves , without it being the work of God, or they would agree with the confessional statements.
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    Are you sure about that SH ? Let's check in on the Confessions of faith and see if you are accurate??? 1689 cof. Chapter 3 Of God’s Decree God hath decreed in himself, from all eternity, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely and unchangeably, all things, whatsoever comes...
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    I do not see 4th century thought in scripture my friend, I do see the doctrines of grace in all 66 books however. Why do you make up fantasies instead of dealing with scripture. You noticed how ben failed on suggesting there are not two peoples in view, in Romans 5. Without that truth , all...
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    Hello Silverhair, my friend, It seems to me, that you and Ben are missing out of what special revelation has revealed to the Church. Dr. Bob offered solid truth, that most people embrace as the truth of God. he does not blame God for man's sin. Does it bother you that you or ben would suggest...
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    Many in Isaiah's day turned from God to idols. That is why they were challenged as in the OP. It looks as if many have made that same error, by turning from special revelation, to man made idols, like "free will". It is just as much an Idol as the wooden idols Isaiah wrote about.
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    No one said He did? Why would you suggest such a thing. God is not the Author of sin! No one suggests this, so why do you say it?
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    Ben does not seem to understand what is at issue here. Look at his responses to Dr,. Bob! He does not have a grasp on the biblical language, He seems to want to blame God for mans sin. This cannot be!
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    Predestination Is God's Identification As The true and Living God

    God has ordained many things to come to pass. Unbelief, apostasy, second death, haters of God. Not just the happy promise verses.
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    Christ SHALL Save His People From Their Sins

    What are you talking about
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