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    Going by.."What is Written"

    I know enough of church history, but I deal with scripture, not your unreliable musings and rewrites from dubious sources. Like I said, you lack much biblical understanding, despite your boasting about your supposed accomplishments, that are not really verified anywhere. I will follow proven men...
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    The Biblical Propitiation Of God's Wrath, and PSA.

    I have not left God;s word, my posts are all about the scripture. I think most agree with the posts offered by those men I quoted. I do not see anyone saying what you do, anywhere.. We will see as men consider the posts and weigh in. You have offered your ideas, and some healthy guidelines, so...
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    Going by.."What is Written"

    Where do you believe he taught that? In Volume one of His works he is very clear on PSA. Pages 38,39. Also...in Volume two on the Atonement pgs 142-150 He destroys your posted ideas in a solidly biblical fashion. Perhaps you got off track somewhere in your past, but this could be a game changer...
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    The Biblical Propitiation Of God's Wrath, and PSA.

    Your opinions do not mean much. No one I know, read, or have spoken with denies the PSA. only you. You admit you did not read the links, I give you credit for that. Maybe if you read them carefully you will come to a better understanding than what you tried to hold in the past. they posted at...
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    Going by.."What is Written"

    Again, padeo views on covenant children are what they hold. If a thread pops up on that, offer these comments. On PSA, and propitiation, you cannot touch what Murray wrote. Again I ask, have you written a book or two, or perhaps a sermon for us to consider?
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    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    Those who believe what is written, know that All sinned, and died in Adam on that day. You must have trouble with spiritual death as taught in scripture.
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    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    The thread is not speaking of infant baptism, You cannot handle what was posted here on these two issues. We can see it clearly.
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    The Biblical Propitiation Of God's Wrath, and PSA.

    Again, you are welcome to your opinion which is highly subjective ! Yes you do and again you are welcome to your opinion. more opinion it is an opinion that no one I know shares ! Your narrow opinion does not Evidently ,what is written eludes you, and you still have failed to address the...
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    Going by.."What is Written"

    As baptists we do not follow him on that. he is very solid on PSa, as part of the doctrines of grace. You caanot find anything in his writing, Redemption , Accomplished, and Applied that you could find fault with! You of course are welcome to try. You nitice that was not the book I...
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    Going by.."What is Written"

    Yes...your new interpretations are a red flag. Denying that men like John Murray and pastor martin have not studied all the things listed is not a solid charge is it? That is why we have the once for all time faith delivered on the pages of scripture, and expounded by men throughout church...
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    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    No. it is what the scriptures teach from cover to cover. not so, it totally understands God is absolutely sovereign over all things. and yet no Calvinist teaches any such thing. No...
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    Going by.."What is Written"

    Yes. People have tried to redefine the doctrines of grace, but have come up short.
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    Going by.."What is Written"

    Deacon's post highlights that those who despise Godly teachers that God has provided to the church, by default are living upon themselves, and they lean on their own understanding, rather than what God has designed for believers. Ironically they violate the very thing that they say others do; 5...
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    Flaws of Calvinism

    But who is following the Roman Church You make this link, in your mind. You have not given any evidence ,have you? you say it is so, but no proof is given.
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    Going by.."What is Written"

    Yes, this is exactly what most people do who are searching out the meaning of scripture, like those described in Acts 17:9 ok yes, good point! Yes he did! Yes, then if someone disagrees there is no reason to question if English was their second language, lol Yes, this is also a good and...
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    The Biblical Propitiation Of God's Wrath, and PSA.

    Another accusation on your part, and still no attempt to address the pages of material offered directly Oh, but it is...it is your opinion, and no one I know shares it. You are welcome to your opinion, and notice I do not accuse you of lying! This is your opinion and nothing more. Nothing but...
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    The Biblical Propitiation Of God's Wrath, and PSA.

    No one has denied that Jesus Himself is the propitiation. Not the pastors and teachers quoted. That is not the issue. That is not in any way different from the material offered throughout this thread. Now, you make a correct statement here, as that is exactly what the biblical teaching of PSA...
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    Going by.."What is Written"

    Here is how this is posted; The poster claims he is right and others are wrong. Then he makes a statement that Scripture is perfect and inspired, as if other Christians somehow doubt that??? Again we see such statements; Those who see PSA. in scripture take God's word as complete and...
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    Going by.."What is Written"

    Some posters make such claims that they are only going by..."what is Written in scripture" They then claim that all other "men", pastors, professors do not go by What is Written! Only they have a direct understanding of what is written. They seek to dismiss truth claims and theology as just the...
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    Flaws of Calvinism

    Do you have evidence of this? can you provide direct quotes on this? or are you talking about the dime a dozen fake posters who make unfounded claims that attack biblical truth?
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