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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    We know that Abraham had knowledge of the coning Christ/Messiah. I personally believe that is a part of what Abraham believed from God. Whether a vision or dream who knows, but Christ told us that Abraham seen His day and was glad. John 8:56 "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and...
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    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    You've been listening to the likes of Kenneth Copland and his crowd with this nonsense of Christ dying spiritually.
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    Calvin may mean nothing to you, but being a PB more than likely the 5 points do.
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    You know we're talking about faith in the finished work of Christ. Got to throw in your angles and rabbit trails leading back to the Calvinist Dictionary.
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    Is there another way of salvation other than faith in the Calvinist Dictionary?
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    That divine intervention is "the Gospel of our salvation." Eph. 1:13 "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,"
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    Straight from the Calvinist Dictionary~! Because they said so!
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    God is bound to His Word! He would be a liar if He didn't. God cannot change what is written in His Word, and we know exactly how man is made righteous, every single one of us.
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    So that's how God makes His robots?
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    You can read that in, the Calvinists do it all the time! I see it as it's written, Abraham chose to believe God.
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    No man can be righteous until He believes God. Remember how Abraham became righteous? "And he (Abraham) believed God and it was counted to him for righteousness."
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    Yes He did, and we've all been depraved and separated from God until He sent the Gospel to us and gave us truth. The only good that can be done in this world, by God's standard, is to believe in His Son's finished work and be led by the Spirit in good works.
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    God said, if a righteous man turns from his righteousness he will die in his sins. Take it for what you see, that's what I'm doing.
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    Ok, if that's the way you see it, but I disagree.
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    Heb. 3:14 "For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;" Was the "beginning of your confidence" the same as mine being Faith in Christ?
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    Well I guess we disagree. Ezekiel gave the words of God that if a righteous man turns from his righteousness/faith he will die in his sins. It's very clear for me but obviously not so clear for some others.
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    The context determines the type of death, physical vs spiritual. What happens when you "die in your sins" as Ezekiel said through God?
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    Did Jesus speak of hell more than heaven?

    Yes, I've heard countless preachers say that. I've always taken it as the detail Christ gives to the horrors of Hell far outweigh the details He gave of heaven. I see Him actually mentioning heaven more often, but not in the detail He gives of Hell.
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    Whether OT or NT man is saved by grace through faith, so when a righteous man turns from his righteousness he is turning from his faith that made him righteous. Die here in these verses is a spiritual death, eternal separation from God.
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    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    The sow that was washed back to her wallowing in the mire? How about this? Ezek. 18:21-24 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die. All his transgressions...
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