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No man can pluck us out of His hands, but we most certainly can pluck ourselves out of His hands.

How do you see this? 2 Peter 2:20-22 "For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them...

Hey, you can't give that spot to Scarlett, you've already given it to me!

LOL, you can't get enough of it, can you? Already proven the point I wanted to make. Us arguing as we have been doing for months will accomplish nothing.

Let's let Christ make that determination, we have no authority over the Scripture to convince anyone of anything.

I look forward to the day when we will all be in one accord.

Any good works that i may have are not mine in reality, they belong to the One who planned, organized, and gave me the privilege to do something in the name of my Christ. He, God the Holy Spirit is One who makes my good works possible through faith.

Psalms 37:3 "Trust in the Lord, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed." Trusting in the Lord is salvation! Doing good follows the trust in the Lord. It's called being conformed into the image of Christ. The good is all the work of the Holy Spirit through...

Whatever you say, K, it's ok with me.

The works because you are saved not the works to get saved. Those that have done good are those who trusted in Christ and their works do follow them.

I've proven my statement that Gill's commentary is based on hyper-Calvinism, and BF backed it up.

And be led into the Calvinist dictionary that makes a mockery of the Word of God. No thanks. We've argued for months on end, but you never get enough. I only pointed out that Gill's commentary is based on hyper-Calvinism, and now I have to explain everything all over again that we've argued...

We discussed this a few weeks ago, K, when you flew angry. Paul is speaking of works vs faith. He says that even the Gentiles who don't have the Law do by nature the things written in Law. But they are still without righteousness just as the Jews who depended on the Law. If man was honest...

Yes, we reap what we sow! If you depend on the keeping of the Law/doing to earn salvation, you will be judged accordingly.

The theme is we can't justify ourselves by works, only God can justify by faith in the Blood of Christ. Christ told the Jews, "Moses gave you the Law and none of you have kept it." Paul is saying if you're trying to be justified by the Law, then you must do/keep the Law. Paul said no man...

As usual we have a different definition of Biblical words, in this case "justification." Paul said we are justified by Grace through faith. He didn't mention anything from the Calvinist dictionary.

Hello, BF. I didn't mean any disrespect toward you when I used you for an example. But you have proven my point! I'm not looking for an argument, I was just making a statement that ended up in the crosshairs.

"Yes, but...? Alan believes it or He wouldn't be posting Gill's commentary. I'm pointing out that it's based on Hyper-Calvinism.

Gill is over the top with Sovereignty, he viewed the Elect justified before they came to actual faith in Christ. This leads to several other problems related to "hyper." That is not what the Calvinists believe that I know personally.

If you can't see that John Gill is hyper in his explanations, then the word "hyper" probably doesn't exist in your vocabulary.