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BF you continue to ignore what the the bible says and reverse the order of salvation so it fits your errant religious view. Even the verse you quoted, Act 20:21, does not help your case. Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised...

Christ is not a failure BF your view is. Your post # 88 "Its on Christ to save all whom the Father wants to be saved. What did the Father send the Son to do ? Lk 19:10 10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. Was He successful ? Did He seek and save all God wants...

BF you are jumping from what you posited that all Israel, the nation, Act 5:31 would be saved, which is not true. To all Israel, those of the same faith as Abraham, will be saved Rom 11:26, which is true. This shows why you have made so many logical errors in your thinking.

Yes Repentance and New Birth correlate to each other but not as you have concluded BF. You have put the cart before the horse so to speak. One must repent before they will be born anew by God. An evangelical repentance, which is a godly sorrow wrought in the heart of a sinful person by the...

Not hard to understand once you take off the distorted glasses you seem to have. Notwithstanding God's predestination is most certain and unalterable, so that no elect person can perish nor any reprobate be saved, yet it does not follow from thence that all precepts, reproofs and exhortations...

The view you are presenting via Zanchius's words do not have anything to do with the word of God but do reflect the views that Augustine brought into the church from his pagan teachings.

Is this not what the quote says? "Therefore, say we, God never designed to save every individual, since, if He had, every individual would and must be saved, for "His counsel shall stand, and He will do all His pleasure." This is what the bible says 1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in...

Actually the Holy Spirit gives a new heart in response to the person repenting and believing.

Now there is a grand piece is failed logic. If everything is set in stone then all the reproofs and exhortations on the part of God, or prayers on the part of man, are useless, vain and insignificant as nothing will change. Your man Zanchius does not do to well when thinking things through to...

Believing a doctrine that has it's basis in pagan philosophy brought into the church by Augustine. No thanks, I will just believe the word of God as found in His Holy Word.

It just takes one verse to show that view is wrong. 1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. It would seem that Zanchius did not have that verse in his bible or more likely he...

Just countering your silly comments BF. All I have done is show the scriptures that prove your view wrong but you just will not accept that truth. It really is sad when you would rather deny the word of God than admit your view is flawed.

So you are just going to ignore the obvious failed logic of your view. Since God wants all to come to repentance then why does Christ not give repentance to all of Israel BF? By your logic that should be the case but as usual you just try to skip the problem and make the same lame comments...

Did Christ seek all that God wants to be saved YES, did all get saved NO. Luk 19:10 "for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost." Who are the lost BF? Is anyone not lost prior to them being in Christ? 1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the...

So why are not all Israel saved BF? Act 5:31 "Him God has exalted to His right hand to be Prince and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins. You still ignore context in what you post and that comes through in the many errors you make in your posts.

God wants all to be saved BF? 1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. Are you saying Jesus got it wrong. Or just perhaps there is another reason that not all men are saved?

Yes He did send Christ to seek and to save those that are lost. We also see this in John 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. Now if we went by what you have said then God only thinks some people are lost, are...

You made the same point I have made on here more than once, that Christ is the Elect One and we are only elect when we are in Him. But as I am sure you will see, those of the C/R view will disagree with that. If Paul had used the words "through Him" which is the intent of Eph 1:3-14 but he did...

Well what you posted does not align with what we know of God's desire for all to come to repentance so Ya it does seem like you are suggesting something that is not biblical.

BF are you suggesting that God changes their minds for them? If that were the case then way has He not done that for all of humanity since His desire is for all to come to a knowledge of Him and be saved. The context does not support your view in either of the verses that you reference. In...