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So you can not answer questions or support you questionable theology. The only thing you and most calvinists can do is misquote the biblical text or the person you are responding to. Truth does not seem to be high on your list KY. And as I said before what point are you trying to make KY...

What complaint have I made against the sovereignty of God? You are blowing smoke again KY. You just can not stand the idea that not everyone will follow your questionable theology.

No God is not unrighteous and that is why He has given man the ability to make real free will choices. The only ones that is see continuing to find fault with God are those that hold to the TULIP/DoG. They do not actually believe what the bible tells us about God and the various means He uses...

How many times must I say that God has provided various means to draw people to Himself? Those various means do not force the person choose Christ. If as you say "A work was done on his heart by the Holy Spirit, thus causing him to change his mind" and God desires all to come to Him and the Holy...

Isa 55:5 "Behold, you will call a nation you do not know, And a nation which knows you not will run to you, Because of the LORD your God, even the Holy One of Israel; For He has glorified you." Isa 55:6 Seek the LORD while He may be found; Call upon Him while He is near. Isa 55:7 Let the...

Dave you will have to expand on this "new free will" idea you have. God does many things to draw people to Himself as I have taken pains to point out many times on this board. Look at scripture and the many ways that God has shown people who He is and who we are. The bible is clear that...

So what you are saying is that some Calvinist churches you know of preach biblical salvation.That's good the hear. But that is the difference, man is forced or free. Under Calvinism salvation is forced on the individual and your faith has to be given to the person so you have to question is it...

Look at what you say "that men should be able to respond to God's gracious offer of salvation and can be held fully responsible if he doesn't". Man is either able or he is not. God either allows man that ability or He does not. Yes man does tend to reject God but there is the rub Dave. He...

And while you can see that man has the ability to choose to reject the offer you just can not accept the reality that man can also accept the offer. I do find this odd as God seems to think man can do just that and that is why He holds them responsible for rejecting it. Logically if man is...

When you say God has to give them the necessary faith to believe then you make God responsible for them not believing. Without Him giving them that faith it would be impossible for them to believe, correct. The reality is that they both made the choice to reject God just as they both could have...

We are obviously going to disagree on this as I see that God made it clear that man has no excuse for not knowing Him. And we can all call out to Him for forgiveness. God continues to use various means and situations to draw people to Himself. What may awaken one will not have any effect on...

The question is not whether we are unable to start following God but why we choose to either follow Him or reject Him. Our depravity is indeed a hurdle that we have to deal with but God obviously thinks that we can overcome that hurdle. We need to have common ground on what you mean by...

But God disagrees with you Dave. God has provided the information and conviction for all men. How they respond to that is why God has said we are all without excuse. If man has no option but to reject His offered gift then how is it just for God to hold them responsible for rejecting Him? God...

All those words and yet you do not engage with Rom 9. You have yet to show why your unbiblical view should be considered valid. You calvinist view is not the standard as much as you think it is. You cannot even allow God to be sovereign. He has to follow your calvinism. Oh the arrogance you...

I understand that those that believe the DoG think they biblical but the JW's and Mormons think they are Christians. Just because you think they are biblical does not make them biblical. The DoG calls the character of God into question. The whole philosophy of calvinism can be traced back to...

They are not biblical so it will cause people to question the truth of God and thus His sovereignty. Also they require God to only act in the way that the DoG state. The question for you is why would you use a false doctrine to support the sovereignty of God? But I see that you agree that...

There you go again Bob. You continue to read scripture through the lens of your calvinism rather than just trust the bible. You error again when you say a person has to be regenerated/saved prior to them being able to seek God. I have to ask you why do you bother preaching the gospel message...

Now if we went by what @Dr. Bob said that God has to make them hear, repent and believe. Then God is logically responsible for all those that do not hear, repent and believe. That is unless you think man can actually make real choices such as the bible clearly says but which calvinism denies...

What's your point KY? Have I said God is unrighteous? NO. Actually in my many posts I have shown just how righteous God is. As the bible says He is just and the justifier of those that believe in Him. What I have said and scripture proves is that the lost are allowed to seek God and God...

@Guido it is clear that you have missed much of what the bible is telling us. You have said that faith in Christ is the only requirement but think through what you are saying. What do you think we are being told in the rest of the NT. Yes they may be writing to those that are now saved but...