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    I Now Know Why Some Deny the Rapture of the Church of Jesus Christ

    Paul separates national Israel from those who are in Christ. Jew and Gentile are made one through faith in Christ, yet we still see Israel spoken of as a separate entity from believers: Ephesians 2:13-16 King James Version 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh...
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    I Now Know Why Some Deny the Rapture of the Church of Jesus Christ

    I would just ask this: where in the Old Testament do we see anyone "saved" according to the Eternal Redemption that Christ accomplished? Who was quickened? And how was that accomplished prior to the coming of the eternally indwelling Comforter? It's not there. As far as whether one must endure...
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    I Now Know Why Some Deny the Rapture of the Church of Jesus Christ

    Different than how those in this Age are justified? Absolutely. Luke 18:10-14 King James Version 10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are...
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    I Now Know Why Some Deny the Rapture of the Church of Jesus Christ

    I'm just not seeing Scripture refuting the physical kingdom that is spoken of in Prophecy in both the Old and New Testament. For example: Isaiah 65:19-21 King James Version 19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the...
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    I Now Know Why Some Deny the Rapture of the Church of Jesus Christ

    The Rapture is a resurrection event that includes both the living and dead among the Church, and this teaching of Scripture differs greatly from the "... meeting Jesus in the air" associated with the amillennial view. If you don't mind, could you state your view as to what the thousand years...
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    The Unpardonable Sin

    One last bit of suggestion: it would be a good thing to quote your antagonist by using the functions of the forum. It makes it really easy to quote a post and separate it. Just highlight what you want to respond to and hit "+ QUOTE" when +QUOTE/REPLY pops up. Then go to the bottom of the page to...
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    The Unpardonable Sin

    JD, what you are doing is ignoring everything I am saying. I am addressing each point in detail and you are ignoring those and going on to something else. I see no response to The Mystery of the Gospel of Christ in any of this response. So I will refrain from addressing the last two posts you...
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    The Unpardonable Sin

    Sorry, no, it doesn't mean that. His Ministry, meaning the Comforter, is given to all men and women. Within this ministry natural man can understand the truth. It is at that time when they can respond to the Gospel being revealed to them. But it is not until they receive Christ that they drink...
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    The Unpardonable Sin

    That is correct. And since the disciples had not yet received the Promise of the Father not many days before Pentecost, and had not been Baptized with the Holy Ghost, and were not yet witnessing to Jews, GEntiles, and the other parts of the world, why would you conclude they received the Spirit...
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    The Unpardonable Sin

    I agree, and this is quite different from the filling. The Son of God is the source of salvation for man. While He is One, you are overlooking the fact that the Eternal Son (not the Spirit) took up residence in the fleshly body God created for the purpose of Atonement. While He ministered as...
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    The Unpardonable Sin

    I am aware of that, lol, I mention this every time I speak to those who believe men have always been regenerated in order to have faith. This is an error that arises through the same kind of interpretive effort you are presenting. It also ignores the clear teaching of Christ that Regeneration is...
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    The Unpardonable Sin

    Do you see what you are saying here? You're saying the Holy Ghost hadn't been sent from Heaven yet. And that is correct. How you conclude that He was "sent from Heaven to baptize Israel" is beyond me. Israel has been blinded, remember? You are creating a division in the Body that Scripture...
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    The Unpardonable Sin

    It is for the express reason that Scripture denies this view. I think all Theological Systems view the Baptism with the Holy Ghost as an empowerment, the filling of the Spirit. Dispensational Theology is one exception. So I am not sure if you can claim to be dispensational and fit the...
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    The Unpardonable Sin

    Point Three: not all the disciples were present, and Thomas was not breathed upo. Shall we say that only ten of the disciples received the Spirit but Thomas missed out? John 20:22-28 King James Version 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy...
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    The Unpardonable Sin

    Point Two: the disciples did not yet receive the revelation of the Gospel Mystery (Colossians 1:25-27; Romans 16:25-26; Ephesians 3:4-5; 1 Corinthians 2). It is impossible for men to receive the Spirit of God and be baptized into Christ apart from the knowledge of the truth of the Gospel...
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    The Unpardonable Sin

    It is not just myself that disagrees with this, JD, it is Scripture itself: Let me show you why the Lord breathing on them did not result in their receiving of the Spirit (and some of this has already been given you and you have not addressed them): First Point: the Promised Spirit (Ezekiel...
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    The Unpardonable Sin

    It's an interesting observation but doesn't help to support Israel taking on a Gentile Nature. That is correct. But no man would be able to be born again until Christ was lifted up (John 3:9-16). I agree. Jesus' ministry to Israel was through His entire earthly Ministry. He was ministering...
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    The Unpardonable Sin

    As you have rightly noted, they rejected Him before Pentecost. No, not really. First, the parable deals with the man, not his house. Second, this is given to illustrate the truth He has just given them in regards to why it is foolish to think Satan is destroying part of his kingdom in order...
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    The Unpardonable Sin

    It is. And will be until the Day of Pentecost. It will not be until several days after Matthew ends that the Kingdom we are now part of will begin. This ministry was for Israel only. Only the Lost Sheep. While we understand the Mystery they did not. Not even the disciples. And if you look...
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    The Unpardonable Sin

    While we are going to see correlation because Scripture is harmonious and consistent, we can't, in my view, draw an exact parallel as you suggest here. If you see it, I don't have a problem with it, so I am not saying you are wrong in your view. However, I try to draw correlations and identify...
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