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All Bible alone traditions say they judge and test their doctrines against Scripture. Yet look at all the division, who has the truth in that mess, to which does the earnest seeker of the truth present himself. Because of this division countless churches of the individual have sprung up, just...

When we say that Scripture is the sole and final authority, we are saying in the same breath that we are the sole and final authority of its interpretation. Luther came up with this novel doctrine, that not even scripture teaches. It’s a pure tradition of man. “ I Luther, guided by God “ Enter...

They didn’t know that Jesus was going to establish the new covenant in His flesh and blood at the Last Supper. They only knew that Jesus was saying that His flesh was real food and blood real drink and they must literally eat His flesh and drink His blood. No, Jesus words are meant to believed...

This arguing full circle comes from having Scripture as your sole rule of faith. Many claim Scripture is their sole rule of faith, but they disagree with each other as to what it means. It’s a never ending cycle of each man referring to Scripture to justify his own doctrines. This is why Jesus...

The plain reading of Scripture is where you work out the context. Whether the allegorical or literal sense, and who is it being directed at etc. John 6 is an example we have been discussing recently. How do we interpret Jesus words here. We see in other scriptures Jesus always corrects people...

Well, first you try and reason with the guy from Scripture, and pray about it. Then you go to the plain face value reading of scripture. Failing that. You go to the ancient traditional understanding of scripture. What has Christianity always interpreted the verses to mean from the beginning...

At Judgement, if Jesus asks me why I believed that His flesh was real food and His blood was real drink. That the Eucharist was His Body and Blood. I can point to His own words. You said it Lord, and I believed. I don’t know how people will justify their unbelief.

Yes they did. I have quoted them in their own words, and can quote many more. I was a universally accepted belief for first 1500 years that the Eucharist is the fresh and blood of Christ. Catholic and Orthodox Churches all maintained the same belief from the Apostles. The majority of...

John 6 has everything to do with the Last Supper. Jesus was separating the believers from the deniers, before the Covenant feast. Better for them who did not believe Jesus words to walk away than stay with Jesus and receive Jesus body unworthily without belief as Judas did. No garment means...

The words of Jesus are true, His flesh is real food and blood is real drink, those who deny these words of His, will disobey and not eat His flesh and drink His blood. Only those who believe Jesus can enter the feast, this requires the garment of faith granted by the Father. It takes faith to...

It wasn’t a metaphor. Jesus said that his flesh was real food and real drink, not symbolic food and symbolic drink. When Jesus was speaking metaphorically and the disciples misunderstood him to be speaking literally, He always corrected them. 11 “After he had said this, he went on to tell...

Denial of reality, Jesus words are reality. Jesus flesh is real food and blood real drink. People not believing this, denying this, they do not come to Jesus and eat His Flesh and drink His blood. They don’t believe, and disobey his words. “Therefore, everyone who hears these words of mine...

No, not metaphor. It is a hard teaching requiring supernatural faith granted by the Father to believe it. They don’t believe in Jesus, they don’t believe Jesus flesh is real food and blood is real drink. And in their denial they don’t come to Him and eat His flesh and drink His blood, they...

Yes it is. You have Christ’s own words standing witness for all time and eternity. “ This is my Body “, “ This is the Cup of my blood “ “ Unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink His blood, you have no life in you “ “ He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood, abides in me and I...

What we are actually witnessing in the Eucharistic celebration of Justin Martyr, is the sacrificial understanding of the Lord’s Supper. “blood of the covenant which will be shed for many.” Our Lord makes this clear with His sacrificial language. Also Justin Martyr says that the bread and wine...

If you are talking about Christian rituals supplanting pagan rituals, then we have no issue. Many pagan rituals were supplanted by Christian rituals without Christianity adopting or being corrupted by paganry. Theologians have talked a great deal about pagan religions being supplanted, this...

You keep saying pagan rituals, yet you have quoted nothing, nor quoted these supposed theologians. I have given you everything from Scripture and the Church Fathers. It’s like you didn’t even know that Sacrament is a scriptural term.

Besides it’s scriptural, mysterion is the Greek word for sacrament, which is mentioned 27 times in the New Testament. It’s meaning is “ Awe “ at something deep, profound, or holy. So it’s a scriptural word that translates into Latin as sacramentum , to convey that something is holy. Holy...

No, it merely gave a Latin name to what they knew was happening already, Grace was being conveyed by these rituals, these were not mere ordinances to them. Grace being involved, these rituals were already Holy.

They weren’t absent. Sacramental means something than conveys healing and transforming grace, and we can see this with Eucharist as the Church Fathers understood it. Ordinances don’t convey grace, but are merely done for conformity. Doesn’t do anything, but you do it because you are told to...