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  1. Gup20

    Synergistic teaching of the Bible.

    You’re right, that’s a better, clearer way of stating it. I was thinking of it in the way Peter denied Christ. He never stopped believing, but he was denying as a deception in a selfish attempt to save himself from harm.
  2. Gup20

    Where Does Faith Come From?

    Ephesians 1:13-14 (NASB) 13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God's own...
  3. Gup20

    Where Does Faith Come From?

    Sorry, that passage says grace is a the gift & faith is the means to acquiring the gift of grace.
  4. Gup20

    Synergistic teaching of the Bible.

    No, I don’t think they are unaware. They deny it. They attempt to refute it & intentionally suppress the truth with what they know to be a lie.
  5. Gup20

    Synergistic teaching of the Bible.

    Demons believe God exists, but they deny the gospel of Jesus Christ. [1Jo 4:1-3 NASB] 1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit...
  6. Gup20

    Synergistic teaching of the Bible.

    Not an assumption... it is my own summary of the points monergists have been arguing here for some time. I've never read John Wesley... I stay away from extra Biblical sources as much as possible. The Holy Spirit is a much better teacher than John Wesley, and if I'm arguing a point, I'd...
  7. Gup20

    Synergistic teaching of the Bible.

    What is not in question is that God saves. What is in question is whom He chooses to save and how that selection is made. Synergists hold that man's and God's choices play a role, while monergists hold that God and God alone decides (on an individual basis) which people will be saved. Being...
  8. Gup20

    Synergistic teaching of the Bible.

    You are inferring the sequence... this is unnecessary because the Bible gives the sequence. [Eph 1:13-14 NASB] 13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is...
  9. Gup20

    Synergistic teaching of the Bible.

    Faith is not a work. Faith is the opposite of works. [Rom 4:1-5 NASB] 1 What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say...
  10. Gup20

    Synergistic teaching of the Bible.

    Perhaps it's best to start with a definition of Synergism: I think the best examples of Synergism in the Bible are these: [Deu 30:1-20 NASB] 1 "So it shall be when all of these things have come upon you, the blessing and the curse which I have set before you, and you call [them] to mind in...
  11. Gup20

    Two judgments - universal resurrection VS universal salvation

    Van, I agree with you that only those people who have transferred into Christ receive reconciliation. We are in agreement there. Where I would like you to comment is what about the animals, plants, and ground which was cursed by God in The Fall? How do these all become reconciled? What is...
  12. Gup20

    All Atonement is Limited by Something

    Gen 3:14-21 NASB 14 The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, Cursed are you more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you will go, And dust you will eat All the days of your life; 15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And...
  13. Gup20

    All Atonement is Limited by Something

    One wonders whom the animals, plants, and ground were conceived in that they should be cursed by God... and what part of the atonement reconciles them? Since their destruction is part of Adam’s judgment, I wonder how Adam’s judgment will be set aside for them. What is the mechanism, and does it...
  14. Gup20

    All Atonement is Limited by Something

    [1Co 15:21-22 NASB] 21 For since by a man [came] death, by a man also [came] the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. The universality of the atonement is in resurrection from the dead, not in applying eternal righteousness. [Act...
  15. Gup20

    All Atonement is Limited by Something

    Acts 24:15 having a hope in God, which these men cherish themselves, that there shall certainly be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked. John 5:28 “Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, 29 and will come forth...
  16. Gup20

    All Atonement is Limited by Something

    It is universal resurrection, but not universal salvation.
  17. Gup20

    All Atonement is Limited by Something

    I was referring to: Hebrews 9:27 (NASB) And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment,
  18. Gup20

    "For God SO LOVES the HUMAN RACE..."

    I have a couple of questions (for you and for Calvinists too). 1. How many sins did Adam commit before he was judged? 2. Did Adam's sin bring universal judgement or just him? Are all guilty of Adam's sin or just experiencing the judgement? What about all the people who died from Adam to...
  19. Gup20

    All Atonement is Limited by Something

    I think a better example are these two: 1Co 15:21-22 NASB 21 For since by a man [came] death, by a man also [came] the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. Rom 5:18 NASB 18 So then as through one transgression there resulted...
  20. Gup20

    All Atonement is Limited by Something

    I agree with this. However, I would add to the nuance you’ve initiated by including the notion that, as a result of Christ & His righteousness, all human beings (whether saved or unsaved) will be resurrected to face a 2nd judgement (the great white throne judgement). That universal repeal of...
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