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  1. robt.k.fall

    Association, or "Society, vs. Convention

    HSBC as a church does not belong to any association or convention. We do identify ourselves as an Fundamental Baptist church (viewing Independent as redundant when applied to Baptists). As individuals, our members fellowship with the Fundamental Baptist Fellowship International.
  2. robt.k.fall

    Association, or "Society, vs. Convention

    It is a discussion. Others may not have your background. So, they need the further information. My bottom line is, The Southern Baptist Convention is not my mother convention. My home church is Hamilton Square Baptist Church of San Francisco, CA. HSBC was founded and organized in 1881...
  3. robt.k.fall

    Association, or "Society, vs. Convention

    Thank you for your clarification. It is well to keep in mind "Missionary Baptists" of both the North and South met together in The General Missionary Convention of the Baptist Denomination in the United States of America for Foreign Missions (aka the Triennial Convention) from 1814 until the...
  4. robt.k.fall

    Does KJVO equal Fundamental?

    I on the other hand will attempt to answer the question. Though because of Real Life, it may take me a day or so.
  5. robt.k.fall

    Exalting the view of man

    First, God had caused the writers of Scripture to be as clear on this topic as many here seek to make it, we would not be having this discussion. What we do have is man trying to lay out a process in understandable terms. However, the process is a Divine one. As such, some of its aspects...
  6. robt.k.fall

    British Soldier Murdered II

    As a mattter of basic presuppositions, I refer you to the operative words are in bold. I believe Jesus as a Person of the Godhead can not lie. So the question is not but rather How do you square your statement with
  7. robt.k.fall

    British Soldier Murdered II

    No, we don't agree. I view Our Lord's command on swords to be that of a soveriegn in his own land. In other words, He was exercising his rights and prerogatives as the lawful King of Israel. To clarify my statement concerning John the Baptist, I was referring to his arrecst and imprisonment...
  8. robt.k.fall

    British Soldier Murdered II

    I apologize to the Board for being so pedantic in this post. However, I learned years ago "a text taken out of context is a pretext." So, this post will be heavy laying out the context for my remarks. I believe this is the potion of Scripture you are referring to. I see the following to be...
  9. robt.k.fall

    British Soldier Murdered II

    The Squire keeps mny things about himself clsoe to his chest. So, I'll step in and explain his and my position a little fuller. First, I have a few questions. Are we any better than the Christians of the first century? They had to deal with Imperial Roman persecution. Can we expect any...
  10. robt.k.fall

    Why no head coverings?

    Me and mine take the long hair position. But, we take verse 16 as governing the verses above and don't make a test of fellowship over the matter. Many EC-B on the other hand question the salvation of otherwise obediant Americans over the matter.
  11. robt.k.fall

    Mexico ceding chunks of territory to the USA

    The word is kibbitizing. It means: to jump into a discussion with a not neccesarily relevant remark. idle chatter. Harry and Mick kibbitzed about rugby. to remark on ongoing play, especially a chess game. Kibbutzing has some thing to do with an Israeli farm community.
  12. robt.k.fall

    Why no head coverings?

    In dealing with the Russian Evanglelical Christian-Baptists on this set of verses, I've always taken the position that Paul in verse 16 is saying don't fight over the issue. i can see and understand the pro-head cover side, but I and my church take the "it's up to the individual" position...
  13. robt.k.fall

    Hamilton Square Baptist Church A Historic Northern Regular Baptist Church

    As HSBC's Church Historian, I must chime in on your post.This meeting occured in 1913. That's close to 100 years ago.Dr. Batten was never HSBC's pastor. Please note post 14 in which he is indentified as "social service secretary of the American Baptist Publication society, and social secretary...
  14. robt.k.fall

    BJU announces independent ombudsman to review abuse cases

    Good Move It looks like the U is moving in the right direction and is no longer seeming to be tentative nor seems to be taking baby steps.
  15. robt.k.fall

    Hamilton Square Baptist Church A Historic Northern Regular Baptist Church

    Louis Sawyer was HSBC's seventh (1902-1915) and ninth pastor (1922-1931). At +/- 20 years he was the longest serving pastor until Arno Q. Wenigar, Sr. (1941-1977) and David Innes (1977-present). It's also worth noting HSBC was closely affiliated with the Northern Baptist Convention as noted...
  16. robt.k.fall

    Hamilton Square Baptist Church A Historic Northern Regular Baptist Church

    Stands to reason. By 1906, HSBC would have been 25 years old. Located at Post and Steiner, it was across Steiner form Hamilton Square Park which woulcd have been a major encampemt for those left hoemless by the Earthquake and Fire. HSBC also would have been the largest non-RCC or Jewish...
  17. robt.k.fall

    Hamilton Square Baptist Church A Historic Northern Regular Baptist Church

    That would have been held in our church's first meeting house. It and its 1911 replacement were located at Post and Steiner Streets.
  18. robt.k.fall

    Hamilton Square Baptist Church A Historic Northern Regular Baptist Church

    Hamilton Square Baptist Church A Historic Northern Regular Baptist Church By Robert K. Fall HSBC Church Historian The subtitle of this article is based on what I answer when I’m asked kind of church I attend. This is a mouthful and throws my questioner off his\her train of...
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    Some Observations on IFBdom

    On my usage of North and South There was/is one historic differences between Northern Baptist Churches (pre convention) and those in the Southern Baptist Convention. Francis Wayland (a Northern Baptist leader) said it best in 1859 In reading Hiscox's The New Directory for Baptist Churches, we...
  20. robt.k.fall

    Some Observations on IFBdom

    Regretfully, I am unfamiliar with this group.
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