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    Penal Substitution Atonement (explain and discuss)

    Isaiah 53:6, All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. Romans 5:8, But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
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    Penal Substitution Atonement (explain and discuss)

    But then clearly cite it! You haven't.
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    To Discuss. John 12:1-2, 12. Mark 14:12. Luke 24:20-21.

    John 12:12, On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem, . . . . John 12:2, . . . they made him a supper; and Martha served: . . . . Was that day before. So not the Sabbath.
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    To Discuss. John 12:1-2, 12. Mark 14:12. Luke 24:20-21.

    John 12:1-2, Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead. There they made him a supper; and Martha served: . . . . Nisan 14 - 6 equals the 8th of Nisan.
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    To Discuss. John 12:1-2, 12. Mark 14:12. Luke 24:20-21.

    John 121-2, wasn't a Sabbath day. 8th of Nisan. So John 12:12 was not the 1st day of the week. Mark 14:12, was 14th of Nisan. Luke 24:21 was the 18th of Nisan.
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    Most Christians either don't really understand or don't really Care.

    Modern English second person pronouns plural and singular are now the same. In the written word of God it it actually matters. Matthew 5:18, For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
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    The Mind Of God

    Isaiah 55:8-11, For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not...
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    The TRUTH about the Preservation of the Bible.

    Thank you for your thoughts on this. Members have different feelings about posted videos. Personally I like short concice discriptive videos. The two videos, 8 minutes, 11 minutes, were by the same author.
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    Why? or Why Not?

    Yes. I hold it, His recieving the death of His soul, was the payment. Isaiah 5312, because he hath poured out his soul unto death: . . . . So He consciously did this. In His resurrection the payment was already had been completed, so His soul was no longer dead. (Prior to Hades, Acts 2:27.)
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    Why? or Why Not?

    Jesus saying, "It is finished." He was referring to, "Jesus knowing that all things that were accomplished." Per verse 28.
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    2 Thessalonians 2:13…

    We disagree. ἀπό, from.
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    Why? or Why Not?

    He said "I thirst ". After it was finished, pre verse 28.
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    Why? or Why Not?

    The atonement was completed prior to His physical death. John 19:28, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, . . . So His physical death was for His resurrection to His immortal life.
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    2 Thessalonians 2:13…

    Do you understand from is any time after?
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    2 Thessalonians 2:13…

    I think you are mistaken. Romans 1:16, ". . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . ."
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    How do you know God is real?

    God is tangible. Or there would be NO existance. Yet intangible being His presence is not something we can touch. His presence is His Omnipresence. Acts 17,:28, For in him we live, and move, and have our being; . . .
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    ESV vs NKJV

    More likely would provide correct variants than not.
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    How do you know God is real?

    The tangible is now. The Holy Scripture which has been received by you and your current trust in Jesus Christ as your Savior because of that Holy Scripture.
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    How do you know God is real?

    But He is by way of His Spirit. Romans 8:9-10, . . . the Spirit of Christ . . . Christ be in you . . . Matthew 28:20, . . . [Jesus] . . . I am with you alway, . . .
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    How do you know God is real?

    The resurrected and now immutable Lord Jesus Christ is flesh and bone as our mediator. (Hebrews 13:8. 1 Timothy 2:5.)
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