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  1. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    I think Preterism was the original eschatological interpretation. Dispensationalism (especially the Rapture) was not around before 1830. In the Olivet Discourse, Jesus prophesied the destruction of Jerusalem that their generation would see. Every time Jesus refers to "this generation", it...
  2. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    Not quite so, Brother. I've never claimed that Revelation is not about literal events. I claim that it's filled with symbolism that points to literal events. Specifically, I believe it's mostly about the events of the Jewish Wars ending with the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. If you look...
  3. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    Repeating the reasons for our opposing views doesn't change the fact that each of us are expressing our views. If it was something either of us could just point to like Perry Mason, we wouldn't be having this discussion. As far as you are concerned, the Preterist view is false and the Futurist...
  4. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    The only point you've proven is that your only argument that "the events haven't happened yet because they haven't happened yet". As I've just pointed out, this is classic circular reasoning.
  5. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    You've just proven my point. Repeating our views over and over doesn't change anything. What more is there to say?
  6. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    Your argument is nothing more than circular reasoning. "These events have not happened yet because I don't think they have happened yet.". You insist that the fantastic imagery in Revelation is literal. Then you insist that simple, ordinary words & phrases like "soon", "at hand", & "this...
  7. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    The timing is obvious from the FACT that Jesus said those events would happen withing the lifetime of His original audience. Also, Scripture repeatedly said those events were "near", "at the door", etc. Why are you okay with claiming that "whole world" must be literal, but "near", "soon", etc...
  8. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    The timing of their fulfillment is the very essence of our debate. I've proven the claims of Preterism from Scripture and history. From your perspective, you would say that I've only stated my interpretation. OTOH, from my perspective, you haven't proven the Futurist view. You've only stated...
  9. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    We do agree that the seals, trumpets, and vials are simultaneous. We disagree on the timing of their fulfillment. You find my views laughable. Then again, I find your views pure fantasy. Talk about pure conjecture, you are looking for literal fulfillment of symbolic events. You are only...
  10. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    Actually, I will turn your answer right back to you. You can't possibly know for certain that those prophecies are to be fulfilled in the future because they have already been fulfilled to the letter. (I didn't know that the Romans didn't actually find gold. That is ironic, isn't it?) The...
  11. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    If I didn't know for certain that those prophecies were fulfilled in AD 70, I wouldn't make claim they were. If a passage is symbolic, it would be wrong to claim it is literal. You need to understand the prophecies in the same way that the original audience understood them. Agreed - there's...
  12. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    I've been a firm believer in the Preterist view since about 2007. I don't believe this view has hindered my ability to see what's going on in the world. That being said, I appreciate your concern. Blessings.
  13. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    Thank you for your comments. While we do indeed see a "global beast of a system in place" today, I do not believe it's the same as the Beast of Revelation. You are right that we should be very concerned about how the world governments are forcing people into compliance. The U.S. looks a lot...
  14. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    Your refusal to acknowledge the symbolism in prophecy - especially in Revelation - is your great escape. You use that deliberate blindness to back up your repeated claims that the prophesied events haven't happened yet. Like most Futurists, you insist that most symbolic passages must be...
  15. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    While we disagree, I have to give you credit for providing Scriptural support for your view. This doesn't prove it was a literal mark After all, the entire passage is obviously filled with symbolism. Only those Jews who aligned their hands and minds with the Old Covenant system were "marked"...
  16. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    And how do you know for certain that the false prophet will issue a literal mark of the beast? You just don't seem to accept the fact that most of Revelation is filled with symbolism. Every number, every color, every garment, every specific detail points to something. The only thing you've...
  17. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    How do you know for certain that the Mark of the Beast will be issued by a man? That entire passage was symbolic. Will Jesus literally wear a bloody garment? Will He literally stomp a winepress? Will "King of Kings and Lord of Lords" literally be written on that bloody garment? And I've...
  18. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    Since we agree that God's people are not physically marked, how do you know for certain that the Mark of the Beast won't also be spiritual? Let me explain how Scripture and reality do put this question to rest. Recently @kyredneck posted a quote from a Messianic Jew named Alfred Edersheim...
  19. Lodic

    THE MARK OF GOD AND BEAST

    As a disclaimer, I am a Preterist. As such, I believe that most of the events in Revelation were fulfilled in the destruction of Jerusalem and of the Temple in AD 70. I believe the Beast was the Roman Empire, and that 666 was Emperor Nero. If you disagree with me (as I expect you will), I...
  20. Lodic

    Questions about watching TV

    Update - Unfortunately, ti seems that Uncle Earl's Classic TV is not available on Fire Stick. Fooey.
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