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  1. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    I can appreciate you checking the Greek. The meaning remains the same, though. This refers to Jerusalem as the capital city of Israel. Don't overlook that one of the translations of "ge" is "land", as in "the land of Israel". Respectfully, Brother, we continue to disagree.
  2. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    You have a wealth of information. Had no idea of this history.
  3. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    "Great city" points back to Rev 11:8, which is clearly Jerusalem. Rev 17:18 is better translated as "the woman whom you saw is the great city, which rules the Land". This speaks of Jerusalem as the capital city of the Land of Israel, not a ruler of the whole earth.
  4. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    I worded that poorly. My meaning was that Israel was the ultimate harlot, as she had committed spiritual adultery when she was supposed to be "married" to God. Did not know about the Jewish connection of Islam.
  5. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    I'd never looked at Lev 26 in connection with the AD 70 destruction of Jerusalem, but you are absolutely correct. That was fulfilled to the letter. As part of the 70 Weeks Prophecy, the first part of Dan 9:26 was fulfilled at the Cross. The "people of the prince who is to come shall destroy...
  6. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    Thank you for explaining your views. We don't need to go deeper at this time, as I think we understand each other's views pretty well. In the early 1st Century, and up to AD 70, Israel was dependent upon the Roman Empire. Even Israel's priests had to appease Rome. Israel's rejection of...
  7. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    I'm not sure how much to write, as the Preterist view is a lot to take in if you are not familiar with it. Here is a very brief summary. I believe there is plenty of support that Revelation was written in the mid-60s, not the 90s. Revelation was written to 7 real churches in Asia Minor. In...
  8. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    If I understand this, you are suggesting that "Mother of Harlots" is similar to a pimp. Israel had played the harlot with the Roman Empire, cheating on her Husband, which is Christ. I didn't think you were trying to bust my chops, but it was nice of you to make sure I didn't feel slighted...
  9. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    I don't think this fits Jerusalem today, as they no longer have the Temple or animal sacrifices. It does fit Jerusalem of AD 70, when the city was destroyed. As a disclaimer, I believe most of Revelation was fulfilled with the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in AD 70. "Mother of...
  10. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    Hosea chapter 2 gives one of the clearest examples of when Israel played the harlot in the OT. I believe that we might be getting into a matter of semantics. If my wife cheats on me, she is playing the harlot. The man she is cheating with is also playing the harlot with her. Maybe I am just...
  11. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    It's because Jerusalem was the Bride who played the harlot with the Roman Empire that I believe she is the harlot in question. The Roman Empire could not be the harlot because the harlot was guilty of adultery. Rome was never God's wife.
  12. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    Rev 17 & 18 are all about the harlot. This harlot is the same as Jerusalem, AKA the great city which is mystically called Sodom & Egypt (Rev 11:8-9).
  13. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    Yes, the mother of harlots from Rev 17 & 18. I think this is the same as the "great city" where Jesus was crucified (Rev 11:8-9). Just as Israel was guilty of spiritual adultery and adultery several times in the Old Testament, she was guilty of having prostituted herself to the Roman Empire.
  14. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    In the context of the Book of Revelation, 1st Century Apostate Israel was the harlot who was involved with the Roman Empire.
  15. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    Let me compliment you on the video. Well done, Brother. I thought you summarized the different views of Babylon pretty well. As you pointed out, we can take the same approach to application whether one is a preterist or a futurist. Hollywood certainly is a type of Babylon, where the movies...
  16. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    Fair enough. I am not here to convince anyone to switch to the preterist view, and you certainly have logical arguments for your view.
  17. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    While Babylon does historically go back to the Tower of Babel, I believe the Revelation reference is specific to Jerusalem. The point is not just that it's a city in Israel, but what it represents. The destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 was a judgment on Apostate Israel.
  18. Lodic

    What is Babylon?

    Interesting topic. I've been on the road, so I haven't had a chance to watch the video yet, but I plan to tonight. Thanks for sharing. As a Preterist, I will share my views. I believe Babylon in the Book of Revelation is Apostate Jerusalem. Revelation 17:2-6 speaks of the harlotry of...
  19. Lodic

    If there were no Baptist churches...

    I would either look for a church that's at least close, such as Assembly of God or maybe a non-denominational church. As a Preterist, I tolerate the Dispensationalist doctrines as long as they don't focus too heavily on preaching their view of the End Times. I would also consider a Reformed...
  20. Lodic

    What other denominations

    Hope you don't mind my jumping in here. I'm not here to argue Roman Catholic vs Protestant doctrine. However, I do want to point out that the Apostles were not infallible. In Galatians 2:11-15, Paul confronted Peter because Peter was guilty of hypocrisy. Peter accepted the correction, of...
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