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  1. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    I must admit that the events of recent days are really scary. Furthermore, if the events of Revelation were pointing to our day, it could very easily look like that. However, I think it's more coincidence than anything else. WWII looked a lot like the end of the world to their generation...
  2. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    Jesus was using the fig tree as an example from nature. He could just as easily have used apples or figs. His point was the things that His disciples would see - Jerusalem surrounded by armies (Luke 21:20), the Gospel preached throughout the Roman Empire (Matthew 24:14), the Abomination of...
  3. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    To put it very simply, do you believe the "Left Behind" fantasy promoted by "futurists" who misinterpret Scripture, or do you believe the crystal clear words of Christ. If you believe the "Left Behind" view, you ignore what is taught in Scripture. If you believe Christ, you recognize that...
  4. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    Let's see - you can't get past changing what Jesus Himself said about those events coming to pass within the lifetime of His disciples, yet, I am the one who has no basis for my argument. Sure, you go with that :). To paraphrase your own post, it was JESUS - not I - who said "all these things"...
  5. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    The fact that the 2nd Coming is in our future does not mean that all of the prophecies of the Olivet Discourse, Revelation, etc. are in the future. The Beast (Roman Empire) was in power when Jesus brought judgment upon Israel. You are stuck on Rev 19, but overlook where Revelation says "the...
  6. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    Thank you for taking the time to elaborate. I disagree with pretty much everything in your answer, but you are very civil about it. I think I addressed several of those points in your other responses. We have such different viewpoints that I'm just going to sum up from the sequence of...
  7. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    Every time Jesus spoke of "this generation", He always meant the generation He was speaking to. If Jesus meant a different, future generation when He gave the Olivet Discourse, He would have said something like "THAT generation", "the generation THAT SEES THESE EVENTS", etc. Jesus said "THIS...
  8. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    I strongly disagree, Brother. Audience relevance is key to understanding all Scripture, especially prophetic events. Jesus spoke specifically about the destruction of the Temple (Matthew 24:2). When the disciples asked about when this would happen, Jesus told them of things that THEY would...
  9. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    Where in the world did you get this idea? Revelation 20:4 speaks of martyrs who were beheaded for the sake of Christ. This was fulfillment of Revelation 6:9-10, where the souls of those martyrs were crying out for vindication. How are you okay with denying the fact that Jesus clearly told His...
  10. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    Yes, in this world we will have tribulation. That's not the same as the Great Tribulation of the Jewish Wars (AD 66-70). Jesus fulfilled the conditions of Daniel 9:24. The "end of sin" was when Christ took our sins upon the Cross. The "70 Weeks" prophecy began with the decree to restore...
  11. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    And, for the umpteenth time, Why would Jesus and the NT writers tell their immediate audience that those events are to happen soon if they were not? Why would Jesus leave them confused about when to expect these events? And, for the umpteenth time, Christ's 2nd Coming is still in our future.
  12. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    Pardon me for jumping in, Brother. If I may ask, could you elaborate on why you believe the Greatest Tribulation was earlier than 1948 and the AOD was in the 19th century?
  13. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    To the contrary, no matter how many times you say those events have not happened yet, Jesus said they would happen within the generation of His immediate audience. The Beast was primarily the Roman Empire, but the Number of the Beast clearly points to Nero. Therefore, it was indeed both. I've...
  14. Lodic

    Why do so many Christians confuse verses about the Rapture and the Second Coming?

    As I understand it, the Rapture is a separate event where Christians are taken away into Heaven either before, during, or after the Great Tribulation. Christ's 2nd Coming is supposed to happen after the Great Tribulation to establish His Millennial Kingdom. I agree that preachers and Bible...
  15. Lodic

    What other denominations

    I'm a member of a Southern Baptist church, but I'm more of a Christian "mutt". During my Christian walk, I've attended Presbyterian, Assembly of God, and several non-denominational churches. Additionally, I've also attended Army chapel services and missionary home churches while I was in the...
  16. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    Right, Titus was not the Beast. He was just a general acting on behalf of the Beast. Wrong in everything you just said. More importantly, Jesus said that everything He had told the disciples would come to pass within their generation (Matt 24:34). Jesus is never wrong, so you must be. Rev...
  17. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    My view has not changed in the least. The Beast was the Roman Empire, but it was personified in Nero. By ignoring the "time indicators", you completely miss important clues about when the events were to take place. John was told that the events revealed to him were to take place soon, for the...
  18. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    I never said that I believe all of Revelation has been fulfilled, which is the Full Preterist view. As a Partial Preterist, I believe the "new Heaven and the new Earth" of Revelation 21 are yet in our future. I agree that sometimes there can be a foreshadow of future events. The only one that...
  19. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    Scripture and actual history prove the truth of Preterism. I cannot admit what is not true. Since you keep asking when the Beast and False Prophet were thrown into the Lake of Fire (Rev 19:20), I've been studying on this. You made an excellent point that this couldn't refer to Nero, as he...
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