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  1. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    Which events of Matthew 24 did not happen before AD 70? The Book of Acts records earthquakes and famines. We know that the Roman Empire experienced plenty of wars, which naturally leads to more rumors of wars. Those were the beginning of sorrows, but the end of the age came when the armies...
  2. Lodic

    Watch for the beast!

    You keep insisting that the Great Tribulation has not happened yet. You base this on the assumption that those events are not recorded in history. You insist that we must read Revelation literally. Having said that, you do not take the very words that Jesus spoke literally. After Jesus told...
  3. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    To get back to your original topic, the prophecy of Daniel 9:26 was fulfilled when Titus destroyed the city and the sanctuary. The very next verse speaks of "one who makes desolate". Clearly, this is what Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:15 and Luke 21:20. Once again, I've proved that the AOD...
  4. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    Hard to miss crystal clear language that the end (of the Old Covenant age) was to come within the lifetime of the original audience. Hard to miss the symbolic language in Scripture. Quite easy to see the past fulfillment of prophecy with a proper method of interpretation.
  5. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    If that were true, Jesus would have said "the generation that sees those events". Since He said "this generation", He must have meant the generation that He was addressing. I am backed up by the undeniable words of Jesus and the NT writers, who provide a lot of evidence that those events were...
  6. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    Know what you mean - I think we've danced to this tune before. You can't answer why you have to change the plain language of what Jesus and the NT authors actually said, so you deflect to say "it hasn't happened", as if that settles the issue. No amount of your word play or guesswork will...
  7. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    You haven't explained how you get around the book of time indicators that I could write. "Soon" means "soon" - unless Jesus said it? "This generation" means "this generation" - unless it means "that generation"? "Near" means "near", unless you just don't want it to. How convenient for you...
  8. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    Consider Matthew 11:16, 12:4, 23:36; Mark 8:12, 8:38; Luke 7:31, 11:29-32, 17:25. In each of those passages, He clearly meant then generation He was speaking to in each passage - several of which speak of judgment. Why would the Olivet Discourse contain the lone exception to what Jesus meant...
  9. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    To turn this around, you simply can't get around the fact that Jesus plainly said those events would happen within the generation of those He was speaking to. Every time you make this claim, you are saying that Jesus was either a liar or that He didn't know what He was talking about. You claim...
  10. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    Or...it's obviously not the futurist view, as Jesus said those events would happen within the lifetime of His disciples. On top of that, several passages say those events would happen "soon" - not 2,000 years later. That's a problem you can't work around without changing the meaning of "soon"...
  11. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    You've just made my point. Your comments make it sound as if Gentry, DeMar, et al were leaders in a cult that have blinded me to the truth. The fact is that, after studying what these guys have to say, I believe they are right based on proper interpretation of Scripture. Would you say that I...
  12. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    If the events of Revelation are in our future, I think you've spelled out how it would happen.
  13. Lodic

    The Christian's relation to politics?

    Scripture tells us that all have sinned, so we will not find a perfectly moral candidate. However, I would hope to find one that shares Christian values. The more important issue is how they will represent their voters. The candidate who truly promotes Biblical values gets my vote. I get...
  14. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    What if I were to suggest that you believe Jesus over Mark Hitchcock, Tommy Ice, and John Hagee? The fact that I agree with Gentry does not mean that I believe him over Jesus.
  15. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    Whether or not this is a foreshadow of the Mark of the Beast, I believe this control is of the Devil just as Hitler's control over the Jews was of the Devil. Whether the prophecies of the Olivet Discourse and Revelation are in our past or in our future, we must all be prepared to go through the...
  16. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    I agree with @robycop3 in that these ideas deserve attention. You certainly make a good case, but nobody really knows how this will play out. Probably could make a whole new thread on this subject.
  17. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    The fact that Jesus died for everyone doesn't really have any bearing on this discussion. The Olivet Discourse describes judgment that came on Israel. Jesus was using hyperbole. This was unique, though. This was the only time the Old Covenant was ever ended. If you are referring to the "Dry...
  18. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    I really do appreciate your historical expertise. I've even learned some things from your thorough explanation of Jewish history. Truly, you have a gift, Brother. That being said, I remain convinced that the prophecies in Daniel, the Olivet Discourse, and Revelation were not about worldwide...
  19. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    It's definitely scary. I have to admit that the controls, mandates, etc. that governments impose are what the "mark of the Beast" would look like if it were in our day. On the one hand, I remain 100% convinced that most of Revelation was fulfilled in AD 70. On the other hand, I would have to...
  20. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    I am glad we can disagree on this and remain civil. Scripture is inspired, but our interpretations of Scripture are not. I must admit that I do wonder when governments talk about putting a chip into the hands of their citizens so they can prove they have been vaccinated against COVID-19. I...
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