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  1. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    Jesus used both literal language and hyperbole in the Olivet Discourse. Revelation is filled with hyperbole and symbolic language. Aside from that, you can't prove that Jesus would not have used hyperbole in prophecy, since He used it in His teachings. In this case, I suggest that you are the...
  2. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    How do you know for certain that Jesus did not use hype or figurative language in prophesying? After all, He used it everywhere else. "The inhabited world", in context, meant the Roman Empire. Refer back to Luke 2. The language, context, and grammar show that this points to a 1st century...
  3. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    How do you know that Jesus wasn't one to exaggerate or use hyperbole? The prophets certainly used a lot of hyperbole and symbolic language in the Old Testament. Jesus exaggerated when He said the mustard seed was the smallest of all seeds. Did Jesus mean for us to literally cut off our hand...
  4. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    Very often in NT prophecy, "world" means the boundaries of the Roman Empire. So, no, Jesus did not mean the whole world. The events of the Jewish Wars line up perfectly with Scripture, especially as they came to pass after Revelation was written.
  5. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    With all due respect Brother, I completely disagree. While we have never agreed on our views of the "end time" prophecies, I appreciate how you always back up your arguments with Scripture and history. Having said that, I have shown you historical proof many times. I can't help it if you...
  6. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    I am absolutely certain the False Prophet was Apostate Israel, who had aligned itself with the Roman Empire. Quite possibly the chief priests were tossed into the Lake of Fire. Preterism leaves a few questions about some of the details, but so does Futurism. Furthermore, the futurist view...
  7. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    That's your response???? And here I was looking for a serious discussion about the topic.
  8. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    I have never added to nor changed the prophecies in Revelation nor any other Biblical prophecy. Rather, I hold to the Preterist interpretation of those prophecies, just as you hold to the view that these events are in our future. For the record, I do believe that the physical, visible return...
  9. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    As I've mentioned before, the False Prophet was Apostate Israel. Presumably, their priests were cast into the lake of fire. Nero didn't have to personally go to Jerusalem. While I'm not really clear on the details of the Beast and the False Prophet getting tossed into the Lake of Fire (Rev...
  10. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    Just for the sake of our discussion, let's say the Roman standards were not the AOD. That still wouldn't prove that the Roman armies did not bring the AOD as Luke's gospel described. I am willing to review whether any claim is true or not. This simply fails to refute my argument. The Beast...
  11. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    As you know, Daniel 9 is about the 70 Weeks prophecy. 11:31 & 12:11 provide more details about the destruction of Jerusalem, including the AOD. Can you disprove the Roman ensigns theory? Scripture and history prove that the Roman armies brought the desolation and the AOD (in whatever form it...
  12. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    I agree that the pig sacrifice by Antiochus IV Epiphanes was foreshadow of the AOD. I also agree that that the desolation was included in the "days of vengeance", but this also included the AOD of Matthew 24:15. When you compare Luke's version of the Olivet Discourse with Matthew's, you see...
  13. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    History gives us the details of the Jewish Wars which included the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in AD 70. This destruction was the AOD. Luke 21:20 tells us that the AOD happened when Jerusalem was surrounded by armies. Note that the language of Luke 21:20-24 is nearly identical to...
  14. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    "Roundabout way" means you are guessing when Scripture speaks for itself. Audience relevance shows exactly what Jesus meant - "when YOU (His immediate audience) see" the things He is talking about. If Jesus meant something else, He would have said so. He could have said "the generation that...
  15. Lodic

    The Abomination Of Desolation

    You base your views on several assumptions. You admit that you believe the AOD will be a statue in a coming temple. One of the problems with your view is that Scripture never tells us a third temple will be built. Another problem is that neither Daniel nor Jesus said that the AOD would be a...
  16. Lodic

    Exodus 1:15-22

    The midwives were honorable and God-fearing. Their lie was to deceive the enemies of God, just as Rahab's lie to the king of Jericho were. It's not really any different from a captured soldier lying to the enemy to protect his unit. What if someone breaks into your home but you have your...
  17. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God? Part 2

    If I thought it was inappropriate or unethical to join in, I wouldn't have done it. This is a fairly common practice on the Baptist Board (and other chat rooms). When I agree with someone else's position, it seems most appropriate to jump in. I'm sure @canadyjd would tell me if there is a...
  18. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God? Part 2

    How is it that the views of those who disagree with you are "mere assertions of your positions that we hold" and your views are not? You base your views on certain Scripture passages, but so do I. Clearly this comes down to a matter of interpretation. I must agree there, that we are certainly...
  19. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God?

    I believe you are not reading these passages in their proper context. Rather, you are looking for passages to support your view. For instance, Psalm 48 is about God's greatness in Zion, but God is the focus. In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus was teaching about proper attitudes of the heart...
  20. Lodic

    D.B. Cooper

    The original series of "Leverage" had their take on this mystery - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2401131/?ref_=ttep_ep6. I was 14 years old when this happened, and I remember that we talked about it at school. I'd almost forgotten all about it.
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