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  1. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God?

    Your position is neither explicitly nor implicitly taught. This view is your interpretation of those passages. While I can see why you have come to your conclusions, they are your conclusions and not things that Scripture teaches - directly or otherwise.
  2. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God?

    God had set aside that land to give to Israel, which we see in Abraham's encounter with Melchizedek. Eventually, God actually gave the land to Israel as their inheritance, as we see unfolding in Joshua. Later, Israel lost the land God had given them and they were exiled for their...
  3. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God?

    God's actions to people doesn't change based on where they are. The entire earth is His land.
  4. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God?

    Since verses 27-28 tells us that one of the priests was released to teach them how to fear God, some individuals may have converted, but the Assyrians as a whole remained pagan. On the other hand, God sent Jonah to Nineveh, and the people of that city repented. Was God interested in Nineveh...
  5. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God?

    I can see how you would think this passage implies that the land was special to God, but I must respectfully disagree. God punishes all who disobey Him, just as He is pleased with all who obey Him, wherever they may be. It was only natural for the Assyrians to refer to YHWH as "the God of the...
  6. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God?

    We simply disagree regarding whether Ezekiel 36 was fulfilled with Judah's return from exile. I thought I was done, but your response made me realize something else. Jerusalem was totally destroyed by the Romans in AD 70 and over 1 million Jews were slaughtered. This was the judgment that...
  7. Lodic

    What about the recent tornado outbreak and God?

    Consider Luke 13:1-4. This tornado outbreak was a tragic event, but a natural disaster. 9/11 was a tragic event brought about by terrorists. Every school shooting is tragic, but sinful men pulled the triggers. Genesis 3:17 tells us the earth itself is cursed because of man's sin. I believe...
  8. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God?

    That is the most important consideration, isn't it? We have to be able to support our views from Scripture. Even though we disagree with our conclusions, I can't find fault in searching the Scriptures. What the Bible says trumps what anyone else says. Of course God chose to make Melchizedek...
  9. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God?

    Aside from the historical connection to Abraham, Melchizedek, and the Jews, what makes the land of Israel special to God? That land is important to Jews (especially the ones who live there), and it's obviously important to you. You have not shown me why that land is special to God? I really...
  10. Lodic

    The Blessed Virgin St. Mary the Mother of God.

    No. Mary is the biological mother of Jesus. John 1:1 tells us "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God". Mary was not present "in the beginning". I take issue with it because it's misleading. Mary is not the mother of Christ's divine nature, but only...
  11. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God?

    You asked for a Biblical argument to support the case that Israel is no longer a special place for God. The passage from John 4 makes that case. Jesus was not talking about the future, but Himself. Everyone who worships Him must worship in Spirit, not go to a special city like Muslims do...
  12. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God?

    While Melchizedek was already the king of Salem (Jerusalem) and a priest of God, I don't see how this points to Israel being anything special to God today. The topic of Genesis 14:17-18 is fully explained in Hebrews 7. The place is not the main thing in focus, but the people are. What do you...
  13. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God?

    Then what do you make of John 4:21, where Jesus told the Samaritan woman "an hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father"? Aside from the passage in Deuteronomy 11, what other passages do you believe supports the view that the land of Israel is...
  14. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God?

    I explained in my post that I am not advocating "Replacement Theology", but I explained how "Spiritual Israel" is a continuation of physical Israel. Jerusalem is not special to God, as we see in the "woman at the well" encounter of John 4. God's sovereign choice of "Canaan's Land" was only for...
  15. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God?

    I'm not anti-Semitic, but neither do I believe physical Israel is God's chosen people. God's "chosen people" is Spiritual Israel. Romans 2:11 tells us "For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and...
  16. Lodic

    Is the Land of Israel Still a Special Place to God?

    During Christ's encounter with the Samaritan Woman at the Well, she "perceives that He is a prophet". She said "our people worship on this mountain, and (the Jews) say that Jerusalem is the place to worship. In John 4:21, Jesus answered her "Believe me, woman, that an hour is coming when...
  17. Lodic

    Dumb jokes only

    Why does Joe Biden love ice cream? No brain freeze.
  18. Lodic

    Day of Christ and Day of the Lord

    I believe the "Day of the Lord" passages in 1 & 2 Thessalonians refer to the same event. They were written by the same author (Paul) to the same audience (Thessalonian church). In 1 Thessalonians, Paul warns them to be alert, and to keep their "spiritual armor" on. In verses 23-24, we see...
  19. Lodic

    Day of Christ and Day of the Lord

    I must admit that I'd never thought of that verse in that way, but it makes sense. Thank you for the insight, Brother.
  20. Lodic

    Fake Eschatology, continued from previous thread

    You refer to interpreting prophecy as symbolic imagery as "reducing it" to something less than what it is when it's simply understanding it the same as the original audience would have understood it. Scripture has several different genres of literature - literal historical narrative, parables...
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