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Sorry about that, Brother. I don't always make myself clear. In my view, the Great Tribulation was the Jewish Wars (AD 66-70). In Matthew 24:27, Jesus said His coming will be just as lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west. Historically, the Roman armies advanced from east to...

Jesus used "prophetic hyperbole" in Matthew 24:29. You find similar phrases in Ezekiel 5:9, Isaiah 13:9-10, etc. Heavenly bodies often symbolize earthly rulers and governments. Obviously the events of AD 70 fulfilled these local events. I am assuming the "tribes of the earth" quote is from...

Not quite sure of your point. Several of us on this thread have very different views of eschatology. Isn't the point of this thread to discuss those different views? From my Preterist perspective, I could say that the "futurist" views are imposed because I don't agree with them.

What you said about the dispensations makes perfect sense, and I totally agree with you on that. The "sign of the Son of Man" did appear immediately after (at the end of) the tribulation when Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70. You see the Great Tribulation as a worldwide event, where I see it...

Again, thank you for jumping in. It's good to know what led people to the views they hold. I was saved in 1978, and the only "end times" teachings I was taught for many years was Dispensationalism. I never heard the term "eschatology" until the early 90s, which is when I learned there were...

No apologies necessary. I appreciate your jumping in. I had assumed the millennial view started with Dispensationalism. Thank you for the correction.

I still hold to my original statement regarding when that was fulfilled. You are a futurist for the same reason that I am a preterist - because it makes more sense to you. I was a Dispensationalist for about 30 years. I realized the error of dispensationalism during the Persian Gulf War, and...

My mistake, Brother. I see what you are getting at (now that you've patiently spelled it out to me). I believe 1,000 years to be symbolic because so much of Revelation is also symbolic. This is a large round number, which stands for an indefinite period. To me, it's significant that this...

I see your point regarding "futurism" and dispensationalism. However, while all futurist views are not dispensationalist, all dispensationalists are futurists. That prophecy from Isaiah 19 was fulfilled in Isaiah 20:1-6.

Thank you. If I may ask, what do you make of Revelation 20:2-10, where "1,000 years" appears six times?

Certainly, Brother. I've always believed that Revelation contains a lot of symbolism, even when I was a Dispensationalist. Even during that time, I took the view that 1,000 was probably not literal just as we don't believe that God only owns the cattle on 1,000 hills. The "symbolic...

While I completely agree that the 1,000 years are not literal, but symbolic, I'm not quite sure about your "Pharisee" reference. I thought the millennial view (especially Dispensationalism) was introduced around 1830 by John Darby of the Plymouth Brethren. Please elaborate.

As far as I know, the different views are Amillennialism, Historical Pre-millennialism, Post-millennialism, and Dispensational Pre-millennialism. In addition to those, we have Partial Preterism and Full Preterism. Obviously, only one view can be correct, as these views contradict each other...

What does "Let the reader understand" refer to? The same phrase is also in Mark 13:14. Are both Matthew and Mark telling their audiences of the distant future what they are to understand? Since the immediate context is "what was spoken of through Daniel the prophet", it is clear that the...

Thank you for giving me Scriptures that you believe support your view. You are presenting your interpretation of those passages, and now I will provide my interpretation of them. In Matthew 24:15-21, Jesus is telling His immediate audience (you) that they will see the AOD that Daniel spoke of...

I understand that you think you have Biblical reasons for your views. Every Christian should have Biblical reasons for all the views they hold. I have Biblical reasons for my views, and I provide the Scriptures to back up those views. I am asking for "proof texts" that support your view that...

I am fully aware of what you think of DeMar and the Preterist view, but you haven't answered my point. You asked whether we think the Jews will build a third temple. I am providing Biblical reasons why I do not believe there will be a third temple. What Scriptures prove (or even indicate) that...

A Third Temple is necessary for the Futurist view, but there is no Biblical support for this view. If you have the time (and the inclination), I suggest reading through this article by Gary DeMar - Does the Bible Teach that the Temple Will be Rebuilt? - The American Vision. I've copied a few...

That link provided exactly what I was looking for. I read it through and now have a much better understanding of the Doctrine of Limited Atonement. I was especially enlightened by how the article explained how the purpose of Christ's work was the FULL salvation, not just the possibility of...

My difficulty was in trying to "un-learn" universal atonement. The passages you used (especially from 1 John 5) were helpful. Thank you.