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My concern , the more vaccines become mandatory, as they were recently made in Colorado, is that you won’t be able to buy or sell without having them, just as masking and other covid mitigations have been made mandatory for most buying and selling. I’m not talking about the covid vaccine in CO...

I think the term they use is “adulting”.

I don’t know that I see evidence of a “spiritual death” in the scripture. The term itself is not used. The evidence usually given, Some of which you’ve mentioned, can with a fair amount of ease be interpreted in other ways that fit better with other scriptures. My argument is that we know...

Not like they do. And annihilationism might not be a correct description. What I’ve been thinking is that death is death—complete cessation of conscious thought, action, interaction. We don’t find any other definition of death in the Bible, at least not the first death. But Christ resolved the...

I appreciate the admission that you don’t know what my contention was, and the resulting conclusion is that you couldn’t then say whether Rom 8 refutes my contention. My contention is that it isn’t the spirit of the man that is dead, it is the man himself—his whole self. But his death isn’t a...

That's a great clarification, Sai! Focusing on this particular statement: "According to scripture the spiritual part of men is dead to God", can you give me that scripture reference that says "the spiritual part of men is dead to God"? I've looked for it, and I can't find it. I understand...

I guess you can't tell if they are frowning at you, so you get more positive vibes.

What does a dead spirit do (or not do)? Why do you feel the need to say "totally" dead? Doesn't that mean that you feel there are different levels of "deadness" for spirits? Maybe some spirits are "mostly dead"??

Illegal search and seizure. Tampering with evidence. I guess they can't sue for false arrest, because the DA doesn't want police to actually arrest people anymore.

If you can't restate my contention in some form, after several requests to do so, how can you say that it is shown to be false? I have no idea what you think is false. I even tried to do your job for you and tell you what I think you think my contention is. Can you at least confirm or deny that...

I'm not sure how you can reply in the first place without answers to your questions. Austin's question is in the OP. This is not the actual OP question, and AustinC admits that there's not much discussion potential in the OP as written. I think you were answering this question: Which I'm ok...

Maybe people are starting to see why a God of love would send people to hell.

I'd been wondering when this would happen, and in what form. But I also wonder if the same thing can be true of men with full/fluffy beards that hide the mouth.

Which "spirit" is @AustinC referring to? And once you answer that, can you answer Austin's question?

@AustinC : I'm not trying to be a jerk, here. I'm trying to determine which contention of mine you think Rom 8 addresses. If it's the contention that we were physically dead already, I am in wholehearted agreement--we weren't. But the fact that Paul used the "death" of the body, while talking...

Cool topic, *Tom! I find it interesting that in both your title of the thread and the first line of your post, you use the phrase "on the/that day", yet you quote the scripture passage as saying "in the day". Why? Are you more comfortable with the word "on"? Do the two prepositions mean the...

Which contention?

I’m impressed that you can actually cut and paste a WHOLE chapter into your response—and provide absolutely no commentary to explain WHY the chapter as a whole helps with your point. And Paul’s, apparently. But I’m willing to hear it, if you’d like to post it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Paul says we were NOT physically alive before the rebirth, any more than we are physically alive AFTER the rebirth: Romans 8:10 (KJV) And if Christ [be] in you, the body [is] dead because of sin; but the Spirit [is] life because of righteousness. How can that be? It makes sense if the death is a...

according to the DNC [Rep. Jerry Nadler calls violence from Antifa in Portland a ‘myth’ | News Break}, it's all a myth that there have been violent protests. Therefore no need for security during their convention.