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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    Could I ask for a scriptural reference where the bible defines "spiritually dead"?
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    Submissive? Hardly. God is no more in subjection to my decisions than He was to Adam's. God told them the penalty for eating the wrong tree, and He implemented that penalty. Does that Make God subject to man's decisions? Another example. Is a father of a child submissive to the child if the...
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    I appreciate that. But words have different meanings, depending on context, audience, application, and intent. Intent dies with the author, and application can be different based on circumstances, so we have to use context and audience to determine intent and application. I'm not saying you've...
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    I agree. And that's Calvinism in a nutshell. Calvinism promotes the "golem" model. Thanks for putting it so succinctly. Calvinism says God controls all at His direction, aka "ordination".
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    Which is exactly like saying, “I’m the only perfect interpreter of God’s word, so if anyone disagrees with me, their wrong.” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    Why don’t you explain what your point is instead. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    Are you saying you think those verses refute the golem concept? Why do those have anything to do with refuting golems? This was one of your verses: But it is the spirit in man, the breath of the Almighty, that makes him understand. I'm not sure how you can read that any other way than that God's...
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    I'm curious why the golem idea bothers you. Are you saying that we are NOT "clay vessels" of God's spirit? [Psa 139:16 KJV] Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect;[H1564] and in thy book all [my members] were written, [which] in continuance were fashioned, when [as yet there was]...
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    So, of the two or three uses of "spirit", do any of them allow for a concept of "my spirit", as per Stephen? The "four winds" usage seems to indicate the "breath" is NOT directly from God (not "His" spirit), but then in vs 14, it IS God's spirit, and that spirit is tied to the return to the land...
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    This is probably the most obvious answer to your question: Acts 7:59 (KJV) And they stoned Stephen, calling upon [God], and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. However, I think this leaves open the possibility that “my spirit” is the portion of God’s spirit in Stephen was what he was giving...
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    This is the problem with the gospel if Calvinism. There is no answer for the hope that is within you. Paul was not a Calvinist: Acts 16:30-31 (KJV) 30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved...
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    And how does God do that? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    I’ve been thinking more about this question, and I’m not real sure what you’re asking, though I helped to instigate the thread. Could you complete the question? “How Corrupt is the Human Spirit and how much corruption is acceptable before God is needed” to do what? To save someone? I would have...
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    Does God Choose Man or Man Choose God?

    All Christians overcome the penalty for sin. They do it through Christ's sacrifice, but they still overcome it. [Rev 3:21 KJV] 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. But unbelievers also overcome...
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    This appears to be off topic, too. Doesn't mention "spirit". Hopefully you are understanding my point here--the "spirit" corruption is not found in the bible. So if we are going to talk about the corruption of the human spirit, we need to define terms so that we are talking to each other with...
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    Does God Choose Man or Man Choose God?

    I've got a follow-up question. How many actually overcome the penalty for sin (death)? Jesus said all will be resurrected. [Jhn 5:28-29 KJV] 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done...
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    Ok, but I'd like you to apply the same standard to your own posts. How is this one related to "spirit", since "spirit" doesn't appear in the verses anywhere:
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    I'd like to propose that a human's "spirit" in this context is the same as a human's "will". So whatever we can say about the human will, we can say about the human spirit. We know that Paul said to "walk in the spirit, and not in the flesh" [Gal 5:16-18 KJV] 16 [This] I say then, Walk in the...
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    The Corruption of the Human Spirit

    Additional quotes from previous topic I'll ask a further question here: What exactly is a "spirit" in terms of a human being?
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