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To a point, I agree. By definition, Orthodox Jews are under the OC. However, they no longer have the Temple, and no sacrifices. Regarding wars and rumors of wars, we have to look at the context. The wars He spoke of was during the Pax Romana. If we look at history, we've had very few...

I would never disagree with Scriptures, but I most certainly disagree with incorrect interpretations of them. Great Trib - Yes, it happened from AD 66-70. We will not agree on this. Agreed, we are still awaiting the 2nd Coming of Christ. (That is the main point where I disagree with Full...

Especially for @Revmitchell and @robycop3 - Since I was asked about the seals, trumpets, and bowls in Revelation, I am providing the following material. This was provided by our good friend @kyredneck : The Covenant Judgments of Revelation By Duncan McKenzie, Ph.D. 2006 Four sets of seven...

I kinda gathered that was your opinion on the matter :).

All you've "proven" is that you don't believe Nero was "the Beast". We will just have to agree to disagree on that point. The "great tribulation" was localized, not a worldwide catastrophe. Again, we will not come to an agreement on this point. I never claimed Jesus was physically present in...

Hi, Rev. I don't really think I'll have the time it would take to give you a detailed explanation of how I view the seals, trumpets, and bowls. As I said earlier, the short answer is they all point to the AD 70 judgment on Jerusalem. If you are truly interested, I can recommend several...

The rapture, the idea that God has separate plans for the Jews vs Gentiles, the view that we are living in the end times - I don't see Biblical support for any of those views. Having said that, I believe there are several dispensationalist views, but I think the things I've mentioned are common...

And again, you are mistaken, Brother. I'm not disputing whether "you" can refer to a plural audience, but whether it does in the context. In this case, Jesus is speaking to His immediate audience, not to an audience 2,000 years in the future. Remember, the books / epistles of the Bible were...

As often as you keep reminding me of your view, I will respond with the truth of the preterist view. The dispensationalist view simply doesn't make sense.

You will need to remind me of what specific events you are talking about.

All Scripture is 100% true, but not all interpretations are accurate. I've explained before that while the New Covenant was instituted at the Last Supper, the Old Covenant system wasn't completely ended until the destruction of the Temple. Your interpretation is wrong basically because you...

Funny, I keep hoping you "dispy" guys will wake up and smell the coffee. I've told you several times that the "Beast" was Nero, and that Apostate Israel was the False Prophet. You keep looking for a literal interpretation of events that were meant to be interpreted symbolically.

Yes, there was a Beast - Nero. Mark of the Beast wasn't a literal mark like a tatoo. The "great tribulation" was what they were going through. We do agree that there was no visible physical return of Jesus, but there was a "judgmental" return, where He used the Roman army to execute His...

I didn't say that I couldn't do it. I thought you wanted a detailed answer, which will take me a little more time than I have today. Maybe tomorrow during my lunch break.

My short answer is that the seals, trumpets, and bowl judgements seem very similar. It's possible that they describe the same events, but with increasing intensity as time goes by. Overall, I believe this describes the Jewish War and destruction of Jerusalem. Unfortunately, it don't have the...

My point is that prophecies are filled with symbolism. Jesus was just following suit, so to speak.

Compare the language of Matthew 24:29 with the language of Ezekiel 5:9, Isaiah 13:9-10, or Judges 5:19-20. Heavenly bodies often symbolize earthly rulers and governments. Clouds are often symbolic of judgment. As we've established, Jesus clearly described the destruction of the temple and of...

I really appreciate this type of discussion. You, RevMitchell, and the others have been very gracious even while we disagree. I appreciate that you know (and love, I suspect) history so well. For historical support, I would have to look at guys like Eusebius, who believed that the events...

Again, my apologies, Brother. I mean that I can see that a part of the discourse is in symbolic language, just as the OT prophets used a lot of symbolism.

I haven't literalized anything, but I obviously do recognize portions where "prophetic language" is used. Robycop has disagreed with me, but that doesn't mean that I am mistaken. Some of the early church historians (e.g. Eusebius) held the view that the events of AD 70 were in fulfillment of...