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OK well thank you for your input. Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Lol how? You understand this thread is my trying to understand partial preterism. Just cause I don't have an answer for something I don't fully understand doesn't mean I don't agree the text says something. Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Yeah but the verse says you will see the abomination of desolation. Not read about it. I understand you disagree and all but from my perspective the preterist is being most literal with the text. Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Lol no I do not reject a literal reading of creation as it literally says evening and morning the first...day just curious, you keep mentioning John. At a tertiary glance I see the passage says "some of you", some is more than one. Who was with John?

"15“Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16“then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house...

Can we agree that Jesus is talking to the disciples? And that He tells them that they will see those things listed happen? The literal sense to me would be that they saw the great tribulation. Or do you not think this speaks of the same things we read in revelation? Hope that doesn't read...

As for the questioning I think it's important to test all things 1 thess 5:21 Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Hi Calminian! Hope you are doing well. Just to confirm, are you stating that pretrib premill is a literal reading of matthew 24?

I would lean towards false convert first in the scenario presented :) Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

As for my osas it's a little hard to explain over my phone. But to take a crack at it. I suppose I take adoption very seriously so I believe a wandering Christian will be chastened and if necessary called home. Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Really? That's rediculous but extremely unsurprising Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

IFB = Independent fundemental baptist. Very conservative, I didnt really fit in but went through faith bible institute, got taught a lot and grew into a deacon roll/did some fill in teaching when we searched for a pastor. Recently for myself I have been questioning my staunch kjv...

Hi lodic! I appreciate that a lot. It's too bad we can't simply discuss it. I was mentored under ifb pretrib premill view and was drilled "literal historical grammatical hermenutic", so following that principle I always got stuck in places like Matthew 24. Lately I've been pushing out my...

Apologies for any confusion, when I hear doctrines of grace I think of full calvinistic theology. All the best, Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Thank you sir Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Something more childish than my current one. BaptistJG or something close to Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

No joke baha Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

It appears my theology divide is getting further...haha I truly find myself a osas arminian and am finding P.P extremely convincing Appreciate the response sir. Blessings, Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk

Appreciate that Dave!

Hi All, So in the process of testing my "IFB" beliefs I have held to for a long time. Eventually I had to question my beliefs in Pre-Trib/Pre-Mill dispensationalism. I have to admit that Partial-Preterism seems to answer a lot of things that didn't make sense to me. I suppose my question...