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Hi Konstanti, 2 Pet 3:8 But of this one thing be not ignorant, my beloved, that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. I’m aware of Dan 9:24-27. I mentioned 2 Pet 3:8 in post #19. In general, I’m not so sure you can interpret 70 weeks as a literal...

My Comment: I’m not saying the Rapture isn’t relevant. I meant that I was talking about the Rapture like it was a fact and I don’t believe it is. I was using the term Rapture to point to a particular time. My Comment: Definitely disagree with this. The Marriage Supper of the Lamb does not...

My Comment: No problem except for the timing. I agree except for the Rapture part. My Comment: That’s good that you recognize that those in heaven can pray for us (Apoc 5:8). We believe the saints in heaven can appear to us occasionally (Matt 27:52-53) which shows it’s possible for souls in...

Hi Darrell, I think adding this to my Post #68 is a good place 1 Cor 15:51 Behold, I tell you a mystery. We shall all indeed rise again: but we shall not all be changed. (DRV) 1 Cor 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, (KJV) Here’s St...

My Comment: I showed in the previous post that there are some verses that use the term “soul” that describes the whole person, that is, body and soul. There are some verses that don’t that I showed. Grudem uses these verses to prove that the soul operates distinct from the body: 1 Cor 14:14, Rom...

My Comment: I see no problem. Did any in Israel (Jews) in the Old Testament go to hell? In Luke 16:22 a division in hell is shown and the rich man went to the hell of the damned (I will admit some think this could be Purgatory because the rich man seemed to have some Charity - Luke 16:27). In...

Darrell, starting with this post I had to read ahead to try an understand what you believe. I guess it’s my fault that this discussion has expanded! I stimulated some thinking alright! Lol My Comment: We don’t believe man is a trinity either. We believe man is made up of “body and soul” (CCC...

Darrell, This is where our discussion deepens. I need a little more time, maybe a couple of days to research and digest, before I continue. This is so interesting! May God bless!

My Comment: I want to say that Apoc 6:9 says these souls were “slain” so they “died”. So even if you consider these verses as an intermediate state, they still died to get there. Ok. First to clarify: I think you are saying that you make a distinction between the “Eternal State” and “heaven”...

My Comment: I know some early church fathers believed in chilasm but I know of none who believed in the rapture 1,007 years before the very end. Are there any? I know some say there are. Can you show one example with the source so I can read it? Maybe there was but, if there was, it seems like...

My Comment: If you move the Second Coming to after the thousand year reign (amillennial), I think we would be in agreement. At least a much better one. My minority view in the Catholic Church does just that! I know you would say “Yea but Christ isn’t reigning in the Thousand year reign!”. My...

Never mind. I think it is doing it! Maybe I’m losing my mind trying to keep up with Darrell!!! Lol

Can anyone tell me how to quote the previous quotes with the vertical line next to them? Mine won’t let me quote that part. It helps with the continuity of the discussion as you know. Thanks!

My Comment: I agree that sleeping equals death. As I said before, 1 Cor 15:51 means, [when it says “We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, (KJV)], that “all will not be dead on the last day but the just (we) will go to heaven and receive their glorified bodies”. Something like...

No problem. Thanks Canadyjd!

My Comment: I disagree. Apoc 11:10 says, “because these ‘two prophets’…” Mal 4:5 says Elijah is one that will be sent at this time and Enoch the other (Jude 14-15). It has to be two of the Old Testament prophets. I personally take a hard line that the two witnesses didn’t die like Aquinas said...

No. I’m not saying that at all. Maybe I misunderstood what Darrell was saying. All men must respond to the gospel but that is not always possible by the normal means. If men cannot be reached with the gospel (Ex: the native in the woods), I believe God makes it possible by extraordinary means...

Hi DarrellC, I couldn’t get this part to quote for some reason. This is also in your post#43: Darrell: There are those who never received the Gospel thus were not able to receive the Resurrection unto life during their lifetimes as we have, but were obedient to the revelation they received...

My Comment: It’s good you think that. I don’t think it says anywhere in scripture that the resurrection (John 5:29) happens in two different places, one being the rapture. We call it the “resurrection of the body” (Dan 12:2, 1 Cor 15:52) because ALL receive their bodies but not all receive...

Hi All, One more correction. I promise! Lol I list the three steps: 1. You die first (particular judgement) 2. Receive your glorified body (as you are going up) 3. Come to the Great White Throne Judgement (we call the General Judgement) Correction: Number 2 should also include the...