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    Rapture Question

    Hi All, I want to correct one thing and add to one thing in post #68: 1. 1 Cor 15:51 When talking about 1 Cor 15:51 I had said: “I’m not sure about the timing of the Just (that are alive on the last day) getting their glorified bodies because the Judgement has to come first (do you get your...
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    The Apostle Peter's Jerusalem tomb.

    Hi 37818, I thought all Protestants would want to tie Apoc 17 to the church in Rome? I’m glad to hear that you don’t. I truly don’t mean to be sarcastic or disrespectful but my interpretation is simply an attempt to be a biblical one.
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    Rapture Question

    Answering post #42 Hi All, I hope all of you will read these posts. This might take a little bit of time to answer but I will answer. I’m going to answer all of them probably at a rate of one or two posts a day. I won’t answer any responses to these responses until I’m finished and only if I...
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    Rapture Question

    Thanks Darrell. I am struggling with this. I did what you said and it posting the quotes worked but then realized I made a couple of breaks that I didn’t want in there but I had already posted the quotes. I’ll start over. Man, I am so bad at electronics! Lol
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    Rapture Question

    don’t know what I’m doing with this cut and paste!
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    Rapture Question

    Hi DarrellC, This might take a little bit of time to answer but I will answer. I understand you taking time away. I will do the exact same thing. It’s fun to me to have discussions but it’s also fun to just do research. I like the challenges as well. You’re right, this is how you hone your...
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    The Apostle Peter's Jerusalem tomb.

    I forgot to add this sentence on why Mark wrote his gospel in Rome: He wrote his gospel at the request of the people who wanted a written account of Peter’s preaching.
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    The Apostle Peter's Jerusalem tomb.

    Hi 37818, 1 Peter 5:13 The church that is in Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you. And so doth my son, Mark. My Comment: This shows Peter writing from Rome (Babylon). There were other babylons but, in scripture, this is the one that is referred to (Apoc 17:5, Apoc 18:10). John...
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    Rapture Question

    DarrellC: quotes LaGrange said:The only exception may be those who are alive at the end of time. Just prior to this creation passing away we see the dead raised from sheol/hades, the sea, et cetera, and they are resurrected one and all. They will have bodies suitable for eternal separation from...
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    Rapture Question

    DarrellC: quotes: Many theologians believed you have to die in order to go to heaven as we think of heaven (Aquinas, STh., III q.49 a.5 ad 2). And I would say that the Doctrine of the Rapture makes it clear that men do not have to die in order to go to Heaven. They do, however, likely have to...
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    Rapture Question

    DarrellC: quote (continued from post#20) Not everyone takes that position and think that physically both of these men died. Enoch did not "see death" which I view as he did not experience death as most do, he was immediately translated to Sheol much the same way we will be translated from one...
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    Rapture Question

    Hi Darrell C, I put these in my notes this way so I’m going to just copy it and past it. DarrellC: quoted Luke 24:39, John 1:11-13 Being born of God (v.13) is a result of God's will. Not of blood (we are not born being members of the Kingdom), not of the will of the flesh (we do not become...
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    Rapture Question

    Hi All, Rapture and Marriage Supper of the Lamb This is kind of a meditation or thinking out loud because it is incomplete and my thoughts are not totally organized. I’m trying to show how you can see Christ in the Marriage Supper of the Lamb while on earth as well as in heaven and a couple of...
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    Rapture Question

    Hi Alex2165, I’m glad you don’t believe any longer in soul sleeping. I’m sorry for misunderstanding you. That’s interesting that you use to be a Seven Day Adventist. Keep studying! God bless.
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    Rapture Question

    Hi Everyone, Rapture and the Marriage Supper of the Lamb I want to try to expand a little bit and paint a picture that may stimulate some thinking. 1. Most of us believe that when you die your soul immediately goes to heaven or hell. Later, at some point, you receive your glorified body...
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    Rapture Question

    Hi Alex2165, Sounds like you believe in soul sleeping. I was reading what the Calvinist theologian, Louis Berkhof, said regarding soul sleeping: “In Heb. 12:23 believers are said to have come to … “the spirits of just men made perfect,” which certainly implies their conscious existence...
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    Rapture Question

    Hi Alex2165, I’ll answer you tomorrow!
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    Rapture Question

    Hi 37818, I’m thinking out loud on this so my understanding is a work in process. Two things I want to comment on: 1. You must die in order to go to heaven and 2. You receive your glorified bodies at the Second Coming at the very end of time. 1. You must die to go to heaven Mark 8:39 And he...
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