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That is a quote from Luther showing that he doesn't affirm pre-regeneration faith. I'm not sure how he would reply to the issue of merit. You can ask him when you get to heaven. I believe we are saved by grace through faith, not of meritorious works. And I don't believe that faith merits...

Your issue is not with what I said, but with what God said. Take it up with him. He said for us to boast in understanding and knowing him. Argue with God all you want, but he said what he said. Calvinists boast in knowing better soteriology all the time...(i.e. I can't believe you can't...

You obviously don't know what the fallacy of question begging is. It can't be answered except by calling it what it is. You are presuming a deterministic premise by suggesting that there must be another determiner besides the one making the determination. If you can't see how that is...

I'll leave you with the words of God, "...boast about this: that he understands and knows me..." I'm sorry you don't want to listen to Him.

So, if you refused to answer the question, "Have you stopped kicking your dog," because of the clear fallacious presumption then that would be equal to 'dodging?' Got it. No, I argued that faith and repentance don't merit salvation. There is a difference. While it was necessary for the...

I see why. To do so would put you at odds with the words of God Himself and you know it. I'm going to do what God told me to do and boast in understanding and knowing Him! You can keep your head in the sand and pretend boasting doesn't mean what it means.

So, even a believer is like a dog acting by instinct when he sins? When that believer commits adultery he had no choice but to sleep with the temptress? IS that what you are saying? David had no choice but to sleep with Bathsheba and have her husband killed? He didn't 'do anything' but just...

I could not agree more. This is an issue that even Calvinists disagree on because of their lack of clarity on the meaning of this term: Even John Calvin himself wrote, "God regenerates us by faith." And... "It may be thought that the Evangelist reverses the natural order by making...

Because some choose to trade the truths in for lies and refuse to accept the truth so as to be saved. If you are asking what DETERMINED the choice of each individual, you are question begging because it presumes a deterministic response is necessary. A chooser determines his choices, period.

Give a definition for boasting that makes God's statement, "...boast about this: that he understands and knows me..." acceptable to you.

Willis, I know what Calvinists believe, you don't have to tell me again and again. I'm arguing against your accusation about OUR system, as if we believe man is 'left to himself' apart from irresistible grace. Being confronted by the powerful, enabling gospel truth is NOT being 'left to...

Knowing God is a "personal achievement' for which God tells us to boast in, unless you have an alternative definition of what boasting entails?

THANK YOU for finally acknowledging at least that much. Man's faith doesn't merit what we get from God. Man's repentance doesn't deserve eternal bliss in heaven with him. Ok, finally we can move past that point.... shew! If you boast about the characteristic that God graces then you don't...

Except when the believer chooses to sin...remember? The reason a believer sins is because God, for whatever reason, did not grant the measure of grace needed for the individual to resist that temptation. That was your position in an earlier conversation, so it is not as if man's choices are...

Kind of like I insist on you believing in double predestination and the divine culpability for the consequences of the fall even though you deny it? Of course they can be used for clarity. They may not be a final authority, but parables or analogies are meant to bring clarity to a point, and...

It is not the final authority of what is truth or false, as that is what we are debating. However, it is the final authority of what we believe is true. If we don't believe faith earns or merits being forgiven and saved, then that is what we believe, period. Saying we believe otherwise is...

Of course it assumes it. That is our view. I'm talking about whether faith and repentance within our view is necessarily meritorious, so why wouldn't I represent faith and repentance from our perspective? Follow me. If I assume your view then I accept that faith and repentance are necessary...

So, supply a better definition. Boasting of knowing God and his glory is clearly permissible and encouraged by God, but what does boasting mean according to YOUR definition? If Webster's is mistaken then provide a better definition. Simple request.

Admitting our inability to win the war with our flesh without God's help is one thing. Admitting our inability to resist God's help when genuinely offered is quite another.

Right because everyone knows, or should I say PRESUMES, that moving from the old to the new man is a RESPONSIBILITY of the individual and not God. Right? Or, is that 'measure of Grace' actually God's responsibility too? Yeah, that's probably why a majority of believers reject Calvinism and...