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Sigh... Israel is a perfect example of why you are wrong. Israel is ultimately reconciled with God. The "marriage" is not over. What Jesus said to the woman with five husbands is the closest thing you have to saying marriage ends there, but that is not the point of the text and I would argue...

Willie, I asked the same question brother. How pathetic have we become when the finest examples of true believers are divorced men? I am with you 100%. Also, someone please show me a verse where the bible allows for REMARRIAGE after divorce. Just one. Marriage ends at death. The bible...

....willpower....failing....must resist temptation to respond to idiotic comments and flawed exegesis.........

God also never said "Thou shalt not hire hitmen to commit murder on your behalf", nevertheless, I think we can agree He probably is against it. This is a weak, weak, weak argument. An argument from silence I believe it is called.

Just keep standing in the gap for Calvin brother. He won't let you down.

Hey, for the record, I wouldn't let my wife be a deacon either. I love my wife but deacons are supposed to be men. It has nothing to do with how you feel about the person.

Omalley, let me clarify what I SHOULD have said. I would never have a man KNOWN for being a Calvinist preach in my pulpit. I would also never allow Calvinism to be taught in my church from the pulpit. Neither would I allow anyone to teach it in Sunday School or any other "official" capacity...

What color is the sky in your world Larry?

You guys will never get it. Thank God there are tons of churches and entire seminaries of people that disagree with you. You are inwardly focused which is why you spend so much time in here rather than "out there". I'm not surprised at all that there aren't more people like me in here, we...

Ok team. We've been around the rosie plenty of times by now. I said in the beginning that this forum is not the way to debate this with a bunch of type in little boxes. I know everyone is busy so I'm not really surprised that: No one has dealt with why Adam sinned in the Garden without a sin...

Also, have we at least settled the original point of this post? Namely, that there are more than 2 positions regarding soteriology. "Calvinism" and "Arminianism" are not the only two choices.

Romans 8:28-30 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among...

Are children innocent? Aren't they sinners in Adam and by choice? Are you saying the 9 year old lost little girl that dies prematurely in an auto accident deserves eternal damnation because she has spit in God's face and mocked him? Haven't YOU and I who are believers mocked God and spit in...

Let's see if I've got this right. I google "God's decrees". The first three links produced are from well-known Calvinists. I copy and paste pertinent portions of their works, and you tell me their views aren't consistent with the Calvinist view of sovereinty because they're not consistent...

Is this a good analogy of Sovereignty? Someone tell me. (I don't believe this but maybe you do) Imagine a group of children playing in a room when they find some rat poison. The children freely and willingly eat the rat poison which will kill them. You could intervene and stop them all from...

Scott, You cut and paste a section of scripture brother! That's not exactly exegesis either! See Doug Moo's commentary p.22-30 1. The theological starting point is christology. 2. The theological framework is salvation-history 3. The theme is the gospel. My view is not out of the...

Can you name one city-state in Europe that wasn't modeled this way? Can you name one that wasn't oppressive? What about all the Roman Catholic cities? What about the Lutheran ones? What about Munster under the anabaptists? I'm not arguing that this is right, just that this was the way it...

Romans 7:1 Know ye not bretheren (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth? Romans 8:3 What the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned...

I'm hearing you Russell. The way they describe the relationship is EXACTLY as I would describe it with the exception of Watson's comments. I don't think it is consistent with the Calvinist view of Sovereignty or Salvation however. Saying that God created a sinless man named Adam and saying...

Scott, I keep hearing that term "straw men" but I have given you quotes, bible verses, etc. I have also specifically replied to everyone's objections so far as far as I know. How is that building a straw man? If your view is not represented, bring it on! I've already said I can't claim to...