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........wow, try to get some honest feedback on a recent point brought up in a discussion (which certainly seems valid if contra-causal freedom is in question) and this is the level of banter you get in response? This is one of the most personally demeaning bullying type comments I've heard in...

OPTION 1: If I, as a non-Calvinistic believer, am wrong about my soteriology, then I could only be wrong because God so decreed it, right? God must have decided, for His own secret self-glorifying purposes, not to grant me enough grace to see my error and adopt Calvinism. So, if I am in error...

So its a problem with the Word? OR could it be that God grants men the ability to respond freely and thus some make mistakes? See, my system actually leaves room for all these various views because my view teaches RESPONSIBILITY, where in your view the mistakes are made by God's will, not...

Biblicist, can I ask a favor? Can your restate my position on this subject as you understand it in your own words? Just one short paragraph fairly outlining what you think our system ACTUALLY believes and teaches regarding this point. Please. I'm asking nicely. I really just want to feel...

Why are you acting surprised that a non-Calvinist would deny the foundational premise of Calvinism? And why on earth are you acting as if everyone here would automatically just accept your premises as facts of scripture, when those are the very points up for debate on a Calvinism/Arminianism...

One more time then I'm done. I can only repeat something so many times. My system does not deny that God could justly condemn fallen men for coming short for His law. I've said no less than five times that God COULD JUSTLY choose to condemn all of mankind for breaking his law, but that He...

Really, where does it speak of "judicial life" or "legal life" verses "spiritual life"? Why not accept the verse at its face value and affirm that life is granted by God to those who believe and leave it at that? Do you really believe God needed a bunch of lawyers to explain the nuances of...

Put another way... If Calvinism is true then God has bound all men over to disobedience and shows effectual grace only to a select few. Thus, in that system, God is indeed condemning some people for something they have no control over. If my system is true and God is merciful toward all...

Walter, you don't have to keep restating your case. I get it. I disagree with you. Really, your argument begs the question because your argument is only true if your system is true. In other words, it is only true that God condemns men for something they cannot escape or control if...

We obtain eternal life by faith, because, while we are out of Christ, we are dead, and we are restored to life by his grace alone. It is in God's hands to give life, and He does give it to all that believe: not that believing merits life, but that is a divine choice based on His good grace alone.

It's a good thing you are here to explain that for God since evidently he forgot to tell the author's to say all that... ;)

Biblicist, I pulled up the original conversation that you referenced and here is the following line of that same post: Quote: 4. Would you agree God is nevertheless just in condemning men for coming short of that standard? Absolutely Quote: A major argument presented by Arminians is that God...

In the first set you asked if God is JUST in condemning men for falling short, and He is, but in the second you specifically asked if that is what God did, and I said, no. It would be JUST for God to condemn all men, but that is not what He chose to do. As I explained to you before, it is not...

Kind of like the difference between natural and spiritual abilities? Too bad the uneducated, weak, humble folks that scriptures indicate God chose to save (not so unconditional sounding to me), because they didn't have a copy of Calvin's institute there beside them to help them to know when...

How does the 'wind' blow? What means does the Spirit use to carry His message, the Word of God? The 1 Peter passage I quote above answers that question by revealing that we are born again from the word of God, the very word that is preached. So, indeed the message (wind) does go here and...

There are at least a dozen more that could be used, but this is a great one because it references the heart specifically. If there was ever an opportunity for Paul to mention the need of the implanting of a new heart in order to confess, this would have been it.

Which comes first? Belief or Life? John 20:31 But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name. Cleansing Oneself or Receiving a New Heart and Spirit? Ezekiel 18:31 Rid yourselves of all the offenses you...

His enabling power or His supernatural "I will control your desires" 'zapping' power? I agree with that...I just don't agree as to the effectual nature of that working. The point is that in the order of that verse you have the people living by truth BEFORE coming into the light. In other...

Its all about which you think comes first...cause and effect. Just like the verses in Ezek, which illustrate this point that one must 'rid himself of filth' to receive the new heart/spirit...and in Paul where one must turn to Christ to have the veil removed...or where one must cleanse himself...

We are talking about how righteousness is obtained and condemnation is avoided, remember? One way is not possible for attaining righteousness, one way is possible. Now if you'd like to make a case for why its just as unattainable to fulfill all the demands of the law as it is to trust in...