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I'm going to attempt to fairly restate what I've heard you say and you correct me if I'm misunderstanding, okay? 1. Those who have not gone through the hardening process yet have the "ability to recognize and discern between light and darkness." 2. But even though they have the mental...

I think if you define what you mean by condemned, as I requested on the other thread, we won't continue to talk past each other on this point. We both confirm that God bound all men over to disobedience and thus we all need mercy, we just don't both agree that God provides mercy to all people...

I'm not even moderating this thread...and I'm not trying to 'trap' you. I'm asking you an honest question. Why do you suppose God has chosen not to grant some of his children with the same measure of grace to accept Calvinism? And why do you work so hard to persuade us and others if its up...

Biblicist. Can you actually respond to my words instead of just saying the same stuff over and over while ignoring my posts, please? Can you tell me what you mean by condemned: Option 1: "In hell already or certainly bound for an eternal hell" Option 2: "Bound to hell unless justified...

Who are the convincible Children of God? The special class of Children who He had decided to give an extra measure of grace to so that they would adopt the truth of this soteriological view? Do you think if you write longer, more convincing posts you might win some over...as if your...

Let me approach this another way. Prior to Abraham being justified was he condemned? Was his condemnation an accomplished fact, done with, unable to be altered in anyway? If not, you have no argument. If so, what happened at the point he was justified? "Abraham believed and it was credited...

Again I ask... My neighbor is an unbeliever. Is he already condemned and without hope of being saved? He has hope of salvation, which means it is not a done deal. That is decided at judgement. He stands condemned because of his unbelief, but if he is able to respond to the gospel in faith...

One has to deny that Christ provides atonement for all men in order to maintain the view being propagated in the OP.

But if you break any law then you have failed at every point of the law and thus stand condemned if you remain under that law and refuse to accept the truth. He thinks that is proof that God can and DOES justly condemn men for their inability to believe. He is equating man's inability to...

The strongest points of one's arguments are not typically reflected in the points addressed, but the points ignored....

Because they are bound over to disobedience. They are sinners in need of savior. They need atonement. I agreed with Paul who wrote, "God has bound all men over to disobedience..." Do all men need salvation if they have all been bound over to disobedience? Of course they do. So, what...

So, unsaved people you know are condemned? They are already burning in hell? Or COULD they be saved if they repented and believed? They stand condemned already because they have not believed, but that doesn't mean they can't believe. It just means they will be condemned if they don't.

"Abraham believed and God credit to HIM as righteousness." Why wasn't Abraham condemned? Wasn't he born under Adam too? Was Abraham effectually/irresistibly called (as Calvinism presumes) or was he 'responsible' (able to respond) as we believe? That is our point of contention here...

Just one small problem with this premise. Not all men are condemned. "...there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus" -Rom 8:1 So, how can you argue that God has condemned all men for not fulfilling the demands of the law if not all men are condemned for that? The...

I think the Calvinistic system does in fact deny responsibility while claiming to maintain that they believe it. Men who aren't response enabled, are not responsible, period. The word that Calvinists MEAN when they say 'responsible' is 'culpable' or 'punishable.' Calvinists believe that man...

Biblicist, I asked you, "can you specifically define and describe the DIFFERENCE in the abilities of one who has not progressed through this hardening process and one who has? Are both equally unable to hear, see, understand and turn to God for healing? If so, what is the progression to which...

I came across THIS VIDEO and it really made me laugh out loud, while addressing the differing views of the trinity.

I think Webdog beat me to the punch on this one, but this isn't representative of what I believe about contra-causal freedom. This is one of the many reasons I typically try to stick with the word "responsible" (response-able), as it is most common term which represents what I'm addressing...

A couple of things, and we need to get off this rabbit trail. And I say that as the author of OP, not a moderator. 1. I don't moderate this forum. Squire is the only mod here. 2. It's against the rules to 'get personal' with any participant, even moderators regardless of the 'thickness of...

And that comment is likewise PERSONAL as it implies my skin is thin. Trust me, I lost no sleep over your comment. Don't misinterpret my calling you out for wrongdoing as being unable to stand under its crushing, overwhelming, all consuming weight....after all they are just 'words' and a...