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    Rapture - I would be afraid not to believe in one

    Christ asked the Pharisees and I will ask you, the baptism of John, was it from heaven or of men? (Matt 21:25) Christ himself instituted the Lord's super. Was it from heaven or of men?
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    Rapture - I would be afraid not to believe in one

    Baptism and the Lord's supper ARE new covenant ordinances. Whether they are works or not is irrelevant although I agree they are. They are works to be kept by a redeemed people who can bring forth fruit of the spirit. The ordinances were given to the church because an individual has NO...
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    Rapture - I would be afraid not to believe in one

    Would this not then be the people to whom the ordinances of baptism and the Lord's supper were given and likewise then the new covenant?
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    Rapture - I would be afraid not to believe in one

    Matt 21:43 Therefore I say unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you and GIVEN to a NATION bringing forth the fruit (of the Holy Spirit) thereof. What nation was the kingdom given unto?
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    Unqualified???

    A friend of mine faced a similar problem. He was a member at a Baptist church that was Armenian in nature. After hearing a sovereign grace doctrine, he as an associate pastor, preached a sermon about his new understanding. The pastor who was prominent in some Baptist circles, condemn his...
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    The Vain Fool, Child of Pride, Son of Folly Who Replies Against God's Sovereignty

    NO, You did not get it right. I find it hard to believe that you read any of my replies wherein I emphatically said that there is NO ransoming FROM the Father but there is a ransoming FOR the Father. The Father could not die so he sent his Son to redeem his people.
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    Was Roger Williams a (real) Baptist?

    You appear to read a lot about Baptist history which many of our brethren are unaware. It was my understanding that Williams left the Baptist ranks. The article I read many years ago denied that the assembly that Williams started was Baptist in nature. There are other articles that may be to...
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    The Vain Fool, Child of Pride, Son of Folly Who Replies Against God's Sovereignty

    The atonement was made with the Father through the sacrifice of the Son. That requirement being met/paid now freed the captives from the law of sin and death. Satan could no longer hold those in Christ under a false doctrinal system, since the express image of the Father had been...
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    The Vain Fool, Child of Pride, Son of Folly Who Replies Against God's Sovereignty

    JonC, The sin debt is used in the context of our being under captivity as servants of unrighteousness to Satan under the law of sin and death. We had no ability to redeem or restore ourselves nor our brethren. Christ had to come and proclaim the oracles of God or their true original meaning...
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    The Vain Fool, Child of Pride, Son of Folly Who Replies Against God's Sovereignty

    If it were the plan of the Father to simply say "I forgive you", (which he could righteously do) then there would not be a need for Christ to be crucified. In Christ being crucified, we are ransomed FOR the Father. There is no FROM THE FATHER in my posts unless I overlooked something in spell...
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    The Vain Fool, Child of Pride, Son of Folly Who Replies Against God's Sovereignty

    JonC, You are making an argument that you took from my post that was not what I said. If I led you to believe that was what I was saying because of my lack of clarity, I apologize. I will say that thought never entered by mind. I am not sure if you did not read my post 111 or just forgot to...
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    Was Roger Williams a (real) Baptist?

    Not only was Smyth's baptism not valid in that he did it by pouring but also in that he performed it on himself, an act not found in scripture
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    Was Roger Williams a (real) Baptist?

    For someone to leave the Baptist and become, as I have read, a seeker indicated he was a false brother and/or a false pastor. He did not obviously believe what he said he was standing for or he would not have left to begin with.
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    The Vain Fool, Child of Pride, Son of Folly Who Replies Against God's Sovereignty

    If this does not clear up your questions, please continue to point out your objections and I will respond. Thank you.
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    The Vain Fool, Child of Pride, Son of Folly Who Replies Against God's Sovereignty

    JonC, It is difficult to justify your statement that "for over a mellenia Christians did not see what you said is "clearly seen" without you providing evidence of its source. Augustine and the catholics are not a reliable source and mean nothing to me. I am a Baptist. I have to ask what is...
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    The Vain Fool, Child of Pride, Son of Folly Who Replies Against God's Sovereignty

    Before Adam sinned, he had fellowship with God. Through Adam all became sinners and it was necessary that there be a sacrifice for both Adam and his seed. That is the reason that a sacrifice was provided for both him and Eve in the garden. Do you believe that a sacrifice can stand as a...
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    The Vain Fool, Child of Pride, Son of Folly Who Replies Against God's Sovereignty

    Christ said no man cometh unto the Father but by (the work of) the Son. Ther ransom had to be paid by Christ that men might return to the father. That return to fellowship was to be accomplished by the Father in a particular, or demanded way. Exo 25:9, 2 Sam 2:35 for a couple of examples : Matt...
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    The Vain Fool, Child of Pride, Son of Folly Who Replies Against God's Sovereignty

    If there were no sin debt there would be fellowship with God. If there were no sin debt, we would not die. As I said, sin debt is a condition resulting FROM the wages of sin and wages of sin result in the sin debt. They are not the same but are related. Please expound on how there can be...
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    God's Workmanship

    The bringing forth and edifying or glorifying of the kingdom of God is the work of the godhead where He might be glorified. Christ says in Matthew 16:18, "...upon this rock I will build (work) my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." I Cor 12:18 But now hath got set the...
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