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Throw in the bagpipes and think you've found the answer.

Spurgeon said the agony in the Garden was the overwhelming weight of Divine wrath against human sin being placed on Him as the Substitute. He summed it up as being the final battle with Satan, an intense spiritual conflict. I don't know, it could have been a combination of things.

That's what a Scottish thing? I thought they only wore those things nowadays in traditional festivals and such. Anyway, haven't seen any guys come to Church wearing that.

As far as the women in our Church, you won't see any of the members wearing pants/slacks. There are female visitors who come in wearing pants, and if they are saved and join the Church, the women folk in the Church guide these new believers in the way of separation from the dress of men. Now...

I remember and still have some of those old clip-on ties from the old days, never wear them just a memorabilia thing. You're talking about the loose-nit IBF whereas I'm speaking of the traditional stand by the stuff IBF. There is a huge difference. I noticed in one of your posts you...

I suppose you can see in me why the IFB is so attacked. We can't help it, Jon, we are bold and outspoken to the point of fault in some cases. I realize that. Of late I've been comparing it to Trump, he has the characteristics to make a great IFB. The win at all costs, the determination to...

I believe Christ set aside His power as God and became a man just as we are, but He could not set aside the fact He was God. He walked by faith, depending on the Holy Spirit fully, not knowing what was around the next corner unless the Holy Spirit told Him in advance. All the miracles were...

That's what the true IFB is all about with it's peculiar ways, the things that folks joke about and condemn as foolishness. We are fighting the good fight of faith, as Paul said, to preserve it and give no ground to the end.

But Jon, I'm 70 years old now, I've seen what the IFB was and what it is now in those 70 years. Brother it's declining. We are one of the very few left that will fight Satan tooth and nail to uphold the old paths that Jeremiah spoke of. But I see weakness today that I didn't see 60 years ago...

I guess the IFB is like politics, become more liberal or fade away. The picture of what the world is becoming. I refuse to do that, and at 70 it's not going to be a problem for me, but my kids, that's a different story.

That must have been me hijacking. It was purely by mistake. Sorry to whoever started that thread, I didn't intend to do that.

LOL, you're still funny, Jon. Even when you're not trying to be. Paul warned us of the things to come in the last days. The rock beat worship in the Church is one of many devices by Satan to ruin the Church. Christ spues it out of His mouth, but you believe whatever you want, it's well under...

Nope, there was no rock beat that represented the world until the mid 50's. It was a threat to parents then when it came out and it continues to be a threat, only now in the Church of God. This is what it is. Matt. 15:8 "This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me...

Now if you think God will allow his Words to effectively be delivered through the ways of the world, then I think you may not know God as well as you think.

That would be the "New Cart" I spoke of with David and the Ark. God had a prescribed way to deliver the Ark, He would not accept any other way.

I could be silent and not even express my views, and that was my first thought when I seen the thread. I actually weighed it out, the pro's and con's. Then I thought what would the Lord think of my silence? So here we are at odds and the con's I previously weighed out.

We will get through it Brother Jon! There are so many things we do share in common.

One Wed. night service when we, the tight nit family of the Church were together, the pastor said there would be times when we may not agree, and I may step on some toes and it may sting, but remember we are One Body in the Lord, and we will get through it together.

I think we should continue worshiping the Lord the way we see fit. That is the American way, the foundation of our Constitution. I'm sorry we can't agree on this, Jon. I think you know me well enough to know I meant no harm to you.

I received the same Spirit that you received. There is no difference. When the subject comes up I will condemn it as long as the Lord gives me breath.