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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    I don't know exactly what John 1:12-13 means to you, it's not clear, but I know what it means to me. To as many that received Him, meaning they chose to believe, He gave them the power to be His children. "Not of blood" meaning salvation is not by the natural birth as the Jews believed. "Nor...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    No it's not rocket science. Our spirit is the means of contact for God, Spirit to spirit. It's how we discern the truth of God, or choose not to. It's all about the free will of man, but you believe whatever you like.
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    We are just men in the sight of God being in Christ Jesus. God accepts nothing on the part of sinful man, He accepts only Christ and believing man is in Christ. We are not perfect by any means after salvation, but being In Christ we are perfect by grace through faith in the sight of the Father...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    Christ set us free from the bondage of sin that enslaved depraved man. We now have access to the very Throne of God by grace through faith. But the nature of sin has not been removed, that's where the struggle comes in, the spiritual warfare to keep our faith that Satan wants to take. The...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    We sin body, soul and spirit after salvation. Our salvation is not complete until the resurrection. We have a down-payment on the promise of our salvation by being given the indwelling Holy Spirit. We can have eternal security right now, but that depends on maintaining the faith that saved us...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    There is a point man can reach with God and notice there is no known sin in their life. It's called by some "the center of God's will." I didn't say perfection as in ceasing to sin, that is not possible in this mortal life. I said no repeating of sin in one's life. That's what we should all...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    #2 is our problem and it deals with the problem of sin AFTER salvation. Paul deals with the remedy to this problem, you are ignoring it, seems to me.
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    Ice Storm

    Me too! Ice just started falling here in NC about 15 minutes ago.
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    Men in our Church meet to discuss anything concerning the Scripture,

    What you've stated here is about as close to the truth as I have seen. I'm around the KJVO folks continuously and I've noticed they do make claims that can't be proven. But I don't let that bother me, I use only the KJV but as you have said, not all of us talk the talk they can't prove. For me...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    I may not be understanding your problem with imputed righteousness. Here's how I understand it. At the moment of conversion we are imputed with the righteousness of Christ. We are not perfect, that will not happen until body, soul and spirit of man is rejoined at the resurrection. The...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    You're misunderstanding 2 Cor. 5:21, Van. Christ was made to be sin for us so that by grace through faith in Him it makes it possible for the righteousness of God to be imputed into us at conversion. Paul is giving us in this verse the means in which obtaining the righteousness of God is...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    Ok, I was thinking that's what it was. It's been a while since I've met that belief. I won't argue though, it will only be bitter, I don't want that.
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    I'm a Dispensationalist, I believe each of the 7 letters were written to the Church in periods of time throughout history. For example, the letter written to the Church at Philadelphia was the Missionary Church that had its beginnings in the 1800"s and still continues today.
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    Just wondering for future reference, are you one that believes all names are written in the Book and at the beginning?
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    If that's the way you see it, then ok. No need to go on with this.
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    @37818 Why do you think Christ said this? Rev. 3:10-11 "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    What does it mean to overcome? It means to hold on with faith to the end. That's what will keep your name in the Book.
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    And Christ said in vs 19 whoever takes away from the words of the Book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the Book of life. Proving mans name can be removed from the Book of Life.
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    I believe in eternal security as long as our faith is present. Even the backslider has not lost his salvation, that's the purpose of God's chastisement, to bring them back. It's when His correction is ignored and faith fades that man is in danger. Eventually, and only God knows, that faith...
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    SOME WILL FALL AWAY FROM THE FAITH

    Faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ is not a one time event of confession, we pick up that faith on a daily basis living out our faith. It's like the parable by Christ when the cares of this world overtook them and they fell away. We have a responsibility to hold our faith to the end...
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