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    Communion: does it matter if ......

    Your answered that in John being a nazarite, he avoided wine. You completely try to avoid the question in that Christ himself said he came eating (their charge him being a glutton) AND DRINKING and a winebibber/drunkard. Deuteronomy 21:20 is EXACTLY what they are using as their basis for...
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    Communion: does it matter if ......

    continued-- Several points must be brought into focus. 1- Biblicist said there are no words in the scriptures for unfermented wine. When the word wine is used it means wine. 2- Both Gill and Spurgeon agree that the wine of the Lord's supper was a fermented wine. Fermentation naturally begins...
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    Communion: does it matter if ......

    Forever Settled, Your saying you understand is certainly your opinion but not backed up by the scriptures. Christ DID make wine at the wedding as witnessed in the fact that there was a significant difference in taste and quality between the first drink and the second. Since both Christ and...
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    Communion: does it matter if ......

    Jerome said, How contrived! Baking kills the yeast cells in raised bread too. Is that bread then 'unleavened'? Your attempt to portray a bread that that been baked and no longer has leaven in it as acceptable at the Lord's supper. This same reasoning is why people have used potato chips and...
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    Communion: does it matter if ......

    By the way, you were the one that said it was no sin if the yeast occurred naturally (give me a verse.) You admitted that yeast/leaven represented sin. Your grape juice with leaven must represents sins. My wine has none. Yours does. Another contradiction.
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    Communion: does it matter if ......

    I see neither of you have answered ANY of my questions that are quite simple and straight.forward. So I must conclude by what you have written and most by someone else that- 1- You have read none of the basis for my explanation of the Lords' supper or you have and cannot understand. 2-...
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    Communion: does it matter if ......

    Neither is the word grape juice used in conjunction with the Lord's supper. It is called the fruit of the vine and therefore we must lay line upon line, line upon line. We contend that it lines up perfectly with the events in the marriage. Please reread my comments on the marriage feast, Both...
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    Communion: does it matter if ......

    Forever settled, Have you ever heard of people making their own wine even even as the children of Israel in the wilderness? The end product is leaven free. Then if the wine is leaven free, how can there be leaven found in the house? No exception is needed when no leaven if found. Were they...
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    Communion: does it matter if ......

    It is apparent you have not done even the basic research on the web of the topic fermentation of wine. Grape juice will naturally ferment on its own and turn into alcohol without the need to add yeast/leaven. It is already present on the skin of the grape while still on the vine. The...
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    Alabama Supreme Court Rules Unborn Baby is a Person

    I believe that the aborted child will rise up in the judgment and condemn not only the mother that murdered them but also the father that with was not present to protest or willingly encouraged the mother to have an abortion because of their not wanting the child.
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    Communion: does it matter if ......

    Forever Settled, please consider the following points. As I have said, we do not believe in trans-substantiation and that the wine represents his blood in the observance of the Lord's supper. A brief review of microbiology will show you that live wild yeast is present on the skins of the...
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    Alabama Supreme Court Rules Unborn Baby is a Person

    Since they now allow abortion to the time of birth, what is to prevent them from extending it to after the birth or to seniors (of which I am) that they find of no value?
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    Communion: does it matter if ......

    37818, I believe you read more into what I was saying than i did. I in not wise presented that I was speaking that the blood of Christ is more than representative. Please expound.
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    Communion: does it matter if ......

    We see Saul commit two sins in the name of thought and intent. 1) He did not wait on Samuel to offer the sacrifice but stepped into the order of the priesthood and did it himself.(good intentions) (I Sam 13:8-10) 2) He had been told to utterly destroy Amalek and all that pertained unto him...
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    Communion: does it matter if ......

    Christ says to his disciples making up the new testament church in John 14:15, "If ye love me, keep my commandments." He is speaking of his words, sayings, and ordinances of the new covenant. The new covenant is given to the church and the church has been given the power and authority to...
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    Communion: does it matter if ......

    At the marriage we see, John 2:3,"And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus said unto him, they have no wine."We know it is wine she is speaking of because the govenor of the feast witnesses to the bridegroom in vs 10"...Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine, and when men have...
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    Can you depict Jesus on cakes?

    Seems like another observation of a catholic "holiday" similar to xmas in its meaning. Unfortunately, there are some so called Baptists who have integrated the observance of lent as part of their so called easter. I read of a congregation in Knoxville, Tn that did. Exo 20:1-5 prohibits...
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    The Gospel of Jesus Christ (Death, Burial & Resurrection)

    No, I did not see you trying to make them a part of the church. What I am trying to understand is if they are never physically brought to the birth and as you speculate (if I correctly understand what you are saying} they never become aware of their existence, for what reason do you think the...
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    Chosen in Him

    While we believe that there is an individual redemption, we also believe what Van said concerning a corporate election. Here are a few verses/principles that we, the church at Monarch, believe support it. !. An individual CANNOT be a nation, people, priesthood, or kingdom (I Pet. 2:9) "Ye...
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    The Gospel of Jesus Christ (Death, Burial & Resurrection)

    Yeshua 1, The ALL i am talking about is not referring to the resurrection. I am talking about the kingdom of God, here and now. The ALL of which Christ spoke was the giving, bringing in, establishing of the new covenant, the righteous laws of the kingdom. It is concerning this kingdom that...
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