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  1. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    John 3:16-18 may be just three verses, but this is still the Infallible Word of God, that is teaching some Truths on God's love for the human race and their salvation. You criticize me for mentioning Hebrew and Greek, and yet you say, "Not to mention that the Greek does not say "whosoever...
  2. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    so, then this must be the entire human race
  3. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    If I got it wrong, then tell me how so from 1 Timothy 2:1-6, and John 3:16-18. Don't just say I am wrong, but don't back this up with hard evidence.
  4. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    so you saying that Paul, and even Jesus got it wrong? WOW, Just WOW!!! :rolleyes:
  5. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    Dave, I think that you are imposing your theology into the Word of God, and being very selective in what you quote from it. The passage I have quoted from 1 Timothy is very clear that God desires that salvation of the entire human race, and yet the Reformed will still argue against the Bible! I...
  6. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    Lets see what the passage actually says: "First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and...
  7. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    the Truth of the Bible does not interest you? very sad!
  8. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    How about the fact that Jesus tells Judas, that He was going to the cross to shed His blood for him? Judas, as we know, did not go to heaven, yet Jesus, Who fully knew this, still died for him! This is the extent of "God SO LOVES the human race", which Reformed/Calvinists find hard to accept...
  9. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    Most certainly He does, because He did NOT send them there, they CHOOSE to reject Jesus Christ, and a life that will end up in hell. Lay aside your Reformed theology and you will see much better, God, says the Bible, "is longsuffering towards you [scoffers and mockers], not willing that any...
  10. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    You don't seem to understand either Hebrew or Greek, and seem to think that out English words and usage have always got it right! I noticed that you did not address Psalm 106:40, which is about God's elect?
  11. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    Herein is your problem. I see NO Scripture that says God casts anyone into hell. John 3:18 says, "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God". It is because these DO NOT...
  12. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    Firstly, God does NOT "toss", as you crudely put it, anyone into hell! Secondly, the word "hate" for Esau is not taken as "detest", but by comparison, as in "love less". Jesus says that we should "hate" our families if we wanted to follow Him. Do you think that He meant "loathe and detest", or...
  13. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    I know that the Greek word κόσμος does not always mean "the entire human race". However, contextually, John 3:16 does, as it is the only way that this word used here can be understood. The leading Greek scholars are in agreement that κόσμος here means the "entire human race", as did John Calvin...
  14. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    I don't think that you actually understand what you are saying and even believe! There is not ONE Scripture that says that God is in any way "glorified" by the fall of man, or the death of the wicked in hell. NONE of the passages that I have been given over again, ever say this. Election as...
  15. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    Jesus Christ died for the entire human race, including Judas. I have asked this before, can any Reformed person explain John 3:16-18?
  16. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    read the end of Ezekiel 18
  17. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    if that is the case, then Calvin, like the Calvinists since his time, are equally not capable of rightly expressing what their beliefs really are. On John 3:16 he is very clear that Jesus died for the entire human race, and thereby opened the way to eternal life for them that repented. If his...
  18. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    to "freely reject Jesus", requires FREE WILL for then to do this! This Reformed theology is double-speak!!!
  19. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    How can the lost sinners "desire" anything, because according to reformed theology, their wills are in bondage and they are dead and cannot respond? If the world of sinners can "desire to get saved", then they all must have freedom of choice.
  20. Saved-By-Grace

    Double Predestination

    No he did NOT, check his commentaries on Mark 14:24, John 3:16 and Colossians 1:14, and you will see very clear language, like Jesus not dying for only a part of the world, but the whole human race, and His death was for "everyone without exception", and not the Calvinistic phrase, "without...
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