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    Is The Phrase "Son of man"In Old Versions Always Legitimate

    Tell the truth. Though you quoted the entire D.A. Carson article, you did not read it. Fess up. You need to engage your mind. Read his article with comprehension. Then, respond to my OP. Are those four references to Jesus or humanity?
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    Will you Supprt Inclusive Language 2020 Nasb?

    Where is the evidence you'd like to submit in which some modern versions have been under this subtle influence? If you can't prove it, then onto your next pronouncement.
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    Is The Phrase "Son of man"In Old Versions Always Legitimate

    There is no Daniel 8:44. The point was this : did you read the four passages I listed? Do you agree with me, or not. If not explain why.
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    Will you Supprt Inclusive Language 2020 Nasb?

    The point of my post which you posted in full is: document modern versions that are doing what you claimed. If you can't then you were just thinking out loud with no substance behind it.
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    NIV vs. ESV, Part 2

    Job 27:2 ESV : who has taken away my right NIV : who has denied me justice 27:12 ESV : why then have you become altogether vain? NIV : Why then this meaningless talk 27:14 ESV : If his children are multiplied, it is for the sword NIV : However ma his children, their fate is the sword 28:5...
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    Will you Supprt Inclusive Language 2020 Nasb?

    You will be at a total loss to document anything, but I will attempt to ask you to prove it by citing any evidence to back up our theory. Among other things your theory is rather nebulous. You say there is a subtle influence on some modern translations. But you acknowledge that none comes out...
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    Will you Supprt Inclusive Language 2020 Nasb?

    Of course in the context of which Cottrell spoke "human beings" or "people" is not warranted at all. However, when you make it a universal rule as you implied with "But once you have replaced 'man' with 'people' or 'human beings in your Bible, where do you stop?" That is untenable. Of course...
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    Is The Phrase "Son of man"In Old Versions Always Legitimate

    In about 80 references in Ezekiel it does not apply to Jesus. Common sense should tell us that much. Here are some other places in which the archaic 'son of man' has nothing to do with Jesus. I'll be quoting from the NIV (surprise, surprise). Numbers 23:19 God is not human, that he should lie...
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    Will you Supprt Inclusive Language 2020 Nasb?

    A well-reasoned article by D. A. Carson gets a zero response. None of you wants to have a meaningful interaction?
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    How would a functional translation be superior to formal one?

    What does one do with garbage. You throw it away. It needs to be discarded. Your statements about the NIV for the last 15 years needs to be tossed aside, because they reek of sin. Christians need to be truthful. You have shown a distinct lack of integrity. You need to confess and repent of your...
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    Why is the New International Version Bible translation so popular? What are your thoughts on that?

    What do you use for a brain? Look at the NASB and MLB texts. The NASB reads the same as the NIV and the MLB is almost identical. How many times do you have to have someone repeat the same information to you before it begins to click? Oh, that's right. More than 15 years.
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    NIV vs CSB: which do you prefer?

    Do you recognize your hypocrisy? The NLT uses more functional equivalence than the NIV, and it uses a lot more inclusive language. How do you square that with your barrage of lies against the NIV for supposedly doing all sorts of genderbending and switching of roles between men and women? Of...
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    Will you Supprt Inclusive Language 2020 Nasb?

    Continuing with D.A. Carson's article : "One could even imagine a more subtle argument, one with which I would have some sympathy : It is possible to see in 'son of man' in Psalm 8:4 a gentilic, rightly preserved in Hebrews 2, and then wonder if, owing to the frequency of 'son of man' as a...
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    Will you Supprt Inclusive Language 2020 Nasb?

    In the following essay by D.A. Carson in his The Limits of Functional Equivalence in Bible Translation he refers to the TNIV. The 2011 NIV had not yet been published. But the points he makes are still relevant. "The charge is made that the TNIV obscures the quotation from Ps. 8:4, mistranslates...
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    How would a functional translation be superior to formal one?

    But the point is, as you as have admitted, that you have thrown garbage around about the NIV. Garbage of course means totally fictional, made up claims, that are completely baseless. In other words lies. As I have constantly insisted for the last decade and one half --if it's not in the text of...
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    Why is the New International Version Bible translation so popular? What are your thoughts on that?

    Why do you quote my post without reading it? You do this all the time. Read my #128.
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    Of the following eight Bible translations listed below...

    NIV 1 Timothy 2:11,12 : "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet." Y-1, after years of your babbling about the NIV catering to the feminist lobby and advocating a woman's authority over a man...
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    NIV vs. ESV, Part 2

    Job 18:3 ESV : Why are we counted as cattle? NIV : Why are we regarded as cattle 18:12 ESV : His strength is famished NIV : Calamity is hungry for him 19:13 ESV : He has put my brothers far from me NIV : He has alienated my family from me 19:17 ESV : My breath is strange to my wife NIV : My...
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    Why is the New International Version Bible translation so popular? What are your thoughts on that?

    Just the other day I quoted how a dozen or so translations dealt with Junia (or Junias). The wording of the NIV is exactly the same as the NASB. Good luck on making your fictional case on that. By the way, the footnote in the NIV says Or "are esteemed by." Concerning women taking authority over...
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