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    Salvation by any other name.....

    Yes we after they could not
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    And when the veil was torn they could. The separation was gone because Jesus was accepted as the proper sacrifice. They were not in Heaven but Paradise waiting for things to be finished. They could enter Heaven when things happened and the veil was open for man. Do I recall the veil was 6" ...
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    Why did they not have access?
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    I think this reduces to the difference between Paradise and Heaven.
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    missed the first part, not personally like Saul but individually as a personal Savior No , I am saying they were righteous , according ti God but did not have salvation ,we have, until they were complete in Jesus . Same as after the Crucifixion,
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    A different way to heaven? , rather than a individual relationship with Jesus, This does not fit the character of God
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    Any thing that places the human condition over the spiritual is basically humanistic. Jesus warned against this when He said your eye offend you, This position that places importance of what happens as a human verses what seems to happen as a spirit. is humanistic. [Personal attack edited.] So...
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    your mistake , the verse does not say what you suppose,
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    They progressively knew of A Messiah as promised. Some did not. They were introduced to Him later, personally
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    come one , thy are you being obtuse, Lamb Slain, is used often in other places.. from the foundation of the world is used often but not with Lamb slain. In this cause names written in the book "from the foundation of the world" Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places...
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    nope look at the verse and the other verses with similar phrases. You will notice the other uses of the phrases are not as you say and that in this case the power of the devil is the subject of discussion which cannot effect the . The names are sealed "from the foundation of the world" not...
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    We are not saved at the hope of a coming Messiah, We are saved by a personal relationship with The faith in a coming Messiah was accounted for righteousness, the Jesus was shown to them after the Crucifixion. They were complete. Heb 11
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    [Personal attack edited] The commentaries of those with as much education might could explain for you . You obviously have trouble with scripture. You were correct but have been mislead by your admittance for the approval of a professor
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    [Personal attack edited] But it is so strange that as learned as you are you continue to disagree with others who have shown you errors. not just me but those commentaries mentioned. Look them up for better presentation and get a refund from your professor, cause if you presented this with...
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    I showed an example where the names are in the book from the foundation of the world with no mention of the Lamb. you know this, The names are sealed against the power of the devil as mentioned in the previous verse.
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    no, you misunderstands scripture, you know the Messiah to be Jesus, but they did not, as an example, His own disciples did not understand after three years of direct teaching.
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    Some did not have the prophets, It does not matter what language the names you quote. They did not know. Look at the heroes of faith and determine which ones had any prophet. Heb 11:16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their...
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    The knew of a promised Messiah, that is all , They did not know Jesus personally. Did Job know either, Enoch? no
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    It is simple, If one believes that God has favorites and has a way to eternal life except by knowing Jesus Christ, believe as is posted here. If one believes that all must know Jesus , personally, then accept God has provided the righteous of the OT to know Jesus , after their death. The...
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    The language is not important, They did not know the person of Jesus Christ...until after the Crucifixion ..
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