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    Salvation by any other name.....

    The OT was provided over a thousand of years, You do not understand every reference, so how can they understand when all had not been written? Job as an example, did he have the OT?
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    no trouble, you are misreading as shown earlier
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    no, I do not think so. I need the verse. Belief in Jesus is necessary
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    There were many that claimed to be Messiah, what if they believed on them? We agree believing on the Messiah to come is counted for righteousness but it is not complete for salvation. Jesus provided completion
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    By accepting Jesus as Savior, no other way
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    no , not the sinners but the righteous, If you say there is no "second chance ", they had not had a first to learn of Jesus. They are either not in Heaven or God provided a different way of salvation. Which are both wrong
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    Jesus had to show disciples all scripture pertaining to him so your statement might be true but they did not know Him.
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    It did not saved but was accounted for righteousness for them , all in Hebrews 11, Salvation is of Jesus Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    Common knowledge where I am from. Maybe it needs to be taught in other areas.
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    Paradise Relocated by Wayne D. Turner From BibleTrack Copyright 2004-2008 Consider these verses with regard to the location of Hell (hades) and Paradise then and now. In Matthew 12:40 Jesus said he would spend three days AND three nights in the heart of the earth. In Luke 16:19-31 Jesus...
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers (6) For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead.--This version is misleading, and seems indeed to be one of those rare cases where the original has been expanded by the translators for doctrinal ends. The Greek is simply, For...
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    They preached Messiah,
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    not sufficient, . This is the belief of a coming Messiah that is counted for righteousness, We are saved by belief in Jesus
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    not sufficient, . This is the belief of a coming Messiah that is counted for righteousness, We are saved by belief in Jesus
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    yes they did, belief in anyone else would not be sufficient.
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    my goodness, not English, not believing in God, not believing that God is salvation but only belief in nane of Jesus will get you to heaven. If you are not to invent another way to Heaven and decide God does have favorites, then these OT saints have to hear about JESUS. When did this happen...
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    From another post we discussed them going to Heaven , but this is based mainly upon one statement from David. It is one of my favorite subjects. (I believe differently than most here in this regard and would prefer to discuss this separately) We have been talking about those that were...
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    God provides salvation. (to His glory) the only access to God is through Jesus and the only way to Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    Looking for a Messiah , as the Rabbi's do now is the same as the OT Jews did, we both agree without Jesus they are not saved
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    Salvation by any other name.....

    Note: There is no verse that says they cant be saved. This is man's humanistic bias . You cannot just rely on believing that there is a God and that that God is Jehovah. Repentance of sin and belief that Jesus is the only way of Salvation. Not belief in somebody else or a Messiah that will...
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