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Sunday is NOT the Sabbath Day, but the Lord's Day

you read Greek? this is how it reads, "χρόνος αἰώνιος", please give your translation.

It has nothing to do with "conservative" or "liberal", but dealing with the data as it is without the need to modify meanings just because they do not agree with our thinking. We must not be afraid to deal with truth the way it is, even when it challenges our personal theology. I am showing from...

Romans 16:25, "Now to him who is able to establish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began" 2 Timothy 1:9, "Who has saved us, and called us with a holy calling, not according to our...

I had to laugh out very LOUD!!! Me a liberal??? you know nothing of me! I am not afraid of the Truth of the Word, nor ever use it for my own gain. I will change when the Word shows me to be in error, as I have done on OSAS, where I was shown by the Lord to be WRONG for over 20 years!

My friend, I do NOT accuse you here of any twisting of the Word, but merely point the fact that we must all be seen to be whiter than white in our handling of the Word of God, so that none can accuse us of anything. I very much include myself in this. At least you admit that what I have said is...

yes, I have already said this was the case. Again, my point being, that we cannot build a whole doctrine based on a meaning of a word!

Are you suggesting that Philemon's "departing for a short while", is speaking of his death? As both "season" and "forever" are contrasted. There is no reference or hint anywhere in this Epistle of the eternity of the believer, unless I have missed it? Verses 11-13 shows that the earthly...

Instead of the Moderator, or JWM, both like you and I, fallible humans, ask the Holy Spirit Who actually Inspired the writers of the Holy Bible. Some of the Moderators here have their Soteriology based on human understanding and not from the Word. :D

God knows best!

some of the redeemed have been in their graves for almost 2000 years, and our Great God will raise them up with new bodies again! Amen!!!

are you saying that the Almighty God of the Holy Bible, Who created the entire universe, is not able to do some things? If He wanted Jesus dead for a whole year, then He would have done so, and Jesus would have risen again with no problems. Please never limit the God of the Bible.

sure, there is an example from Philemon 15, where Paul writes, "For perhaps he therefore departed for a season, that you should receive him forever", where αἰώνιος can hardly mean "eternally, without end", but "during their lifetime". Here it is used in a limited sense. When the writers of both...

Believing is one thing, which I do (see #23), but we are told in Scripture to "prove all things" (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

αἰώνιος, "lasting for an age, perpetual, eternal, holding an office or title for life, perpetual" (Liddell and Scott, Greek-English lexicon) "chiefly for age-long, eternal" (G Abbott-Smith, Greek-English lexicon) "without beginning or end, eternal; lasting for an indefinitely long period...

so what of John 8:57? I am showing that it is not at all easy to determine from what we know, easily the years of Jesus' birth and death. As we read in Luke 3:23, "When He began His ministry, Jesus Himself was about thirty years of age", which can mean anything between 27-33, or more.

"eternal - This is a long time", but "a long time", or even " a very very long time", does not have to mean "eternity, endless"? The Greek adjective αἰώνιος, can simply mean, "lasting for an age". It was used as a title for the Roman Emperors.

You said, "Yes, he is, even the Son of the Father, but you do not understand what Jesus 'laid aside' ". How do you know if I don't understand this? Have you asked me, or have I commented on this on BB?

could the Ministry of Jesus Christ have started when He was closer to 40 years old, than 30, and lasted well over the assumed 3-4 years? We have NT data that can agree with this. Look at the Jews question to Jesus in John 8:57; "“You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?" Jesus...

Jesus was born between 6-4 B.C. and about 30 years later He would have commenced His earthly Ministry. After about 3 and a half years He was crucified. I really don't know, and neither does anyone else, as there are many "experts" who disagree. This is not all that important, as it falls into...