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tell me?

you make me laugh! :D

"Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? " (John 6:70), all the 12 are included in the single use of ἐκλέγω, which cannot be understood as you suggest

same Greek word ἐκλέγω here used for all the disciples. But "chosen" here shows that the Reformed understanding is wrong.

I am referring to God "enabling" the elect sinner to believe. This is pure fantasy.

I know Judas was not saved. My point is that Jesus "chose" (elected) him!

see #30, Once Saved - once lost ???

But the Greek text as I have shown on another thread, is far stronger, as it is in John 11:24-26.

what do you make of Jesus' words in John 15:16? "You have not chosen me, but I have chosen (ἐκλέγω) you, and ordained you, that you should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever you shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it to you", which includes...

you cannot, unless one does some twisting of the Greek text.

this is plain rubbish!

Indeed, election is Biblical, because it is in the Bible. However, the Reformed/Calvinistic teaching of this is not, as it is more to do with theology, than what the Bible actually says.

anyone who knowingly teaches that which is contrary to the Holy Bible. There are some who claim to be "saved", but hold to doctrines that show that this cannot be the case.

but you believe that the sinners who are saved, are merely puppets who do nothing, as God has already done their repenting for them, and saved them!

what about those with false theology?

WOW!!! you Calvinists/Reformed do make it up as you go along!!! Now we have the new, unbiblical doctrine, that God has forgiven hell-deserving sinners, before they are even born, or even repent??? This is fantastic, and so very not Bible! I really wish you guys could stick to the Bible, and...

so, what do you think Jesus meant by, "And that repentance for remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem" (Luke 24:47)? Is Jesus mistaken here?

I can see that you have a different Bible to mine, and a different understanding of salvation, which will prove to be a waste of both our time, to continue this discussion. I wish you well.

can a truly born-again person ever lose their salvation, and therefore become un-born-again? I have yet to find a single Scripture that teaches that a truly saved person can ever become lost, and end up in hell forever. I have argued on other threads that there are some very testing and...

Joseph, you make it all sound so sentimental, and as if God is just resigned to the fact that the majority of his creation, will end up lost forever! "God does not demand", says you, but the Bible clearly says that "God COMMANDS every person everywhere to REPENT" (Acts 17:30), Do you think that...