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Sure, no problem. Your OP addresses "those, like the Reformed/Calvinists, who try to “prove” from somewhere in Scripture, that a sinner is first “made alive”, and then they are “able” to call on the Name of the Lord, for their salvation." I cited Genesis 3:9-12 as the archetypal passage that...

I'm asking you to address Genesis 3:9-12, which records a manifestly fallen and "spiritually dead" Adam responding on his own to the call of God. His dead spiritual status does not prevent his response to that call. This is the archetypal passage on interaction between fallen man and holy God...

As Adam's response to God should give you pause regarding yours ... ;-)

"My theology" is that the Bible does not teach salvation by works. That is the theology I have defended in this verse, it is what the Bible actually does say, and I am puzzled that you think I am saying anything else. I have dealt exclusively with what Jesus plainly says in this context, which...

I am fighting against misuse of the Word of God. If you interpret a passage to make Jesus say we must expend personal effort to enter into eternal life, "doing our best" to obtain it, I am certainly going to object. Would you seriously consider changing your handle to "Saved by doing my best"? ;-)

"Try really hard to enter" into eternal salvation? Sorry, I personally really don't see how that helps. Anytime people start importing ideas into a passage that are neither in the verse nor its surrounding context I begin to suspect that theological persuasion is driving interpretation instead...

I did read your post, and I agree that the relationship between repentance and faith is an interesting and important question. I don't see how that issue bears on the meaning of ἀγωνίζομαι in Luke 13:24, unless you are somehow associating the verb with repentance. If so, and you are saying that...

I share your view that sinners are able (and therefore accountable) to respond to God's provision of salvation through His Son the Lord Jesus Christ through faith and faith alone. That fact is made clear in many passages of scripture, but Luke 13:24 is not one of them. If ἀγωνίζομαι represents...

I'm reading Genesis 3 and asking how you account for fallen Adam responding to God's call without any indication of intervention or assistance from God to enable that response. Is this scripture written for our instruction or not?

Proof-texting is not persuasive, and your lack of response to the examination of the passages you cited indicates there are significant weaknesses in what you claim as scriptural support. Funny how nobody who shares your view wants to talk about fallen Adam's unassisted response to God's call...

You posted nine claims based on Adam in this thread, and when you finally got around to giving your supposed scriptural support for them I answered with exegetical rebuttals. Which one of these can you demonstrate to be "weak exegesis"? As I said, "I also provided an exegetical understanding of...

I am in general agreement with your position, but Luke 13:24 (as elaborated elsewhere to Van) is not a legitimate passage to use for support. The verb ἀγωνίζομαι translates "strive, struggle, make an effort, fight." It is a misunderstanding to interpret the "kingdom of/from heaven" as eternal...

The passage (Luke 13:24) is in blue, meaning you can click to read it and quoting it is unnecessary. Our friend Van insists that Jesus is speaking of eternal salvation in that verse, and I have contested his assertion with extensive exegesis. I also provided an exegetical understanding of Adam...

So that's a "no" on dealing with the text of Genesis 3, substituting an excessive use of second person pronouns for looking at the content of the Word itself. 1 Timothy 6 regards, adios.

You seem to be changing the subject away from Adam; it appears you have no answer to the points I raised regarding the details of the biblical account. Crickets?

Weak exegesis would be claiming that Jesus told His listeners to "strive to enter" into eternal salvation in Luke 13:24, thus having Jesus promote salvation through personal effort.

Well, if I were HC I would suggest that Adam and Eve were a unique case, and that their fall and restoration never interrupted their status as elect; but of course I'm not. I am happy to point out that Genesis says nothing at all about Adam getting the gospel or accepting it, much less being...

Adam "saw himself from outside himself" when he named the animals and realized he wasn't like them and saw there was not a "help meet for him." He "saw himself from outside himself" at the moment he first saw Ishshah, recognized her as bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh, and named her after...

When God called to Adam in Genesis 3:9, was he able to reply? Did he answer God's questions, and confess his disobedience? The answer is yes. Revelation 22:17 - "And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let...

If you were in the right you could address my points instead of attacking my person. 1 Timothy 6 regards, and adios.