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Now where is the Sabbath in those scripture quotes? Did you think that attention to detail might not actually matter to most? Oh, I bet you believe God is playing "fill in the blanks" as you see fit! ;)

There is no commandment within the "Ten Commandments" which says, "worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters". There are many other places in the Scripture which instructs us to worship God, Whom of course made the heaven and the earth and sea (Gen 1:1)...

Well..........the angel said nothing about the Sabbath commandment either......but emotions sure are running wild.

Well, actually he believed Jesus is the Son of God. The only requirement for justification.

So is the part about the Sabbath just a figment of your imagination? You do see the angel said nothing about the Sabbath commandment? Well, obviously you don't. But why not is the real question. To what gain is there to add to Gods word that which is not there? Is it emotionalism?

Your straw man is easily seen. Nowhere did I ever say the angel is pointing to the fourth commandment. And nowhere in the text does the angel say anything about the fourth commandment. Making stuff up doesn't get you the results you have imagined it would. The facts remain. Now do you have any...

I took some time and tried to make the angel's message point to the fourth commandment. It just isn't there in the text. Fear God, Worship God and the distinguishing that this is the God who made the heavens and the earth does not equate to the fourth commandment. God could have very easily have...

Really Bob? How many questions have I asked you and you refuse to give a straight answer or answer at all. Some on this very thread. So we are left with believing what the ex-SDA folks are saying.

One declared why he comes... Which he clarified what his gospel message is here.... However, when I began questioning what this message is, he took his fishing pole and worms and went home. So I don't know how they will ever convince anyone of their SDA angel message if they refuse to engage...

But Bob, you know yourself that what a sect actually teaches and believes is found in it's congregations attitudes and practices. You yourself know this just from dealing with RCC Christians, look at Utilyan for example, he believes a person can reject Jesus Christ and still be saved by their...

No, it is not obvious why this is important to your SDA three angel message doctrine, which is the topic. John quotes what has been quoted by prophets from the beginning, you distinguish it as quoted from Exodus, which I can agree, that's fine. now tell us why this is an important factor to the...

OK, and this matters to you why?

Lol. Well go ahead and continue, yes, I will agree that God making the heavens and the earth is found in Exodus. So explain why the order in how it is stated is important to you and anything else you would like.

It would be helpful if these SDA folks could even explain their beliefs.

You still did not answer my question. What is your point in the distinction in the order of how it is stated? Genesis states God created the earth and the heavens, the sea and all things, etc. You are not making any point so far. You would think that you guys who believe this SDA three angels...

Not sure why you find this some sort of distinction. and the reference to God creating the heavens and the earth precede it being repeated in Exodus. In fact God states it as "heavens and earth" in Gen 2:1 and as "earth and heavens" in Gen 2:4. Why do you find the order so relevant?

Well, I thought you might help out One Baptism. He said he was here to teach, but gave up pretty quick. He got as far as leading me to God creating the heavens and the earth, which I already knew, but gave nothing as to how it links to SDA three angel message.

I was hoping you would take one step at a time as to teach why your SDA three angel doctrine is correct. So far I have been given some Scripture which all Christians say Amen to, but nothing new. Your last post before this one you posted Scripture where God says He created the heaven and the...

OK, all good stuff. So what is new? What is the non SDA missing?

Maybe BobRyan can help you out. We have made it to God made the heavens and the earth. Haven't learned anything new yet concerning the SDA three angel message. We have the Scripture message, but still waiting on further "Light".