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Hey Utilyan, Isn't this "God distributing different amounts of Light" doctrine taught by the RCC also?

Never asked you to... So you lay it upon God as to how much Light He gives? So if one does not keep the Sabbath it could be because God has not wanted them to?? Does that really make sense to you? Explain how one would see the Sabbath truth. Would this need to be some special revelation...

You will have to elaborate on this more. "If they have seen it as fully as God has declared they should". What does this mean? Let's use myself as an example for you. I have studied the scriptures for twenty years, daily, haven't had too many days I have missed. I have deliberated the Sabbath...

Yepper, and everyone on this board who does not keep the Sabbath is damned, forget about anything Jesus has done on the cross, it's up to YOU to keep God's commandments and save yourself.

Thank you! At least you are not afraid to say it. We have another SDA here which dodges the question every time. not wanting to say what SDA beliefs teach their members. This leaves quite a large number of Christians heading to hell. Sounds strange doesn't it? Hundreds of millions of Jesus...

No never. Once Jesus saved me I became a new creation, one with God, a child of God, born of God. There is nothing I could do to step in and out of that situation, nor would anyone ever want to. Q#1 No. Q#2 Everyone is born with the sin curse of Adam pumping through the flesh and is in need...

I'm asking you and your SDA beliefs. If it is simply another sin listed among them all then my understanding of scripture is there is no consequence for the Christian for not keeping the Sabbath. But the question remains for you, according to your SDA beliefs, is there any consequence for the...

But my question is what's the consequence for the Christian that does not keep the Sabbath?

Here is what I want to know from those who promote Saturday Sabbath Keeping; As you can see there is an argument as to whether Christians should be observing the Sabbath. The argument is always the same and neither side ever changes their mind and we all read the very same Scriptures. So the...

Just an FYI, when you post scripture, I do not read it, not bc I do not love scripture, but since this is a thread for debating how one lives out what they believe and not a debate over scripture interpretation itself. Think of this thread like this, I could say I believe there is no God and...

Been there done that oh maybe 20,000 times. Try defending Jesus Christ is the Son of God from the bible to a Muslim or Jew and see how that usually goes. Same as trying to convince an SDA what born-again means. Now, why do you fear applying your own beliefs to your own life? Still...

Your losing me. You are the one who said when you sin you lose your salvation COMPLETELY. Now you say there is a box with a certificate inside saying you are saved forever. Do you know what you believe or not?

I keep asking you about you and you keep talking about me. Why are you avoiding my questions? I thought maybe I was not wording it right, but I'm not sure, maybe you just don;t want to answer. You made the statement that when you sin you lose your salvation COMPLETELY. Then after probing a bit...

We all already know what the bible says. And we have went around and around on interpretation and context to no agreement. So this thread is designed to put forward your life applications of what you believe the bible is saying to you. Apply what you believe to your own life and how you have...

Of course this is not the point though and we both know it, right? The point is I believe the rescued sinner remains saved whenever they sin and you do not. Hence my investigative question.... Have you yourself ever stepped in and out of salvation? Which you are afraid to answer. Why are you...

I'm not clear how this is answering my question. Maybe I am not wording it right. You made the statement that when you sin you lose your salvation COMPLETELY. Then after probing a bit you stated that you do sin. So I am trying to understand how this works as you see it in your own life as you...

I did not say you said it. You gave Lucifer as an example against OSAS. Well, Lucifer was never once saved so how can you use him as an example? Or Adam for that matter?

If it does not make any difference you would have no reason for not answering. I believe in your heart you know it does make a difference and just don't want to go to that place that may rock your world. If it really is pointless, you would simply answer the question and that would be the end...

Not sure what you are talking about???