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Hey utilyan, I have answered all your questions. You still have a few outstanding, here is one you haven't answered yet.... The question for you is, how does your sin, which you admit you have, cause you to COMPLETELY lose your salvation??

Hey Bob, you need to scroll back through the thread, you have a lot of unanswered questions.

Nor is it the mark of the beast either. ;)

Ok, this is NEVER going to happen. That is the past, the past is not coming back. So what needs to happen is one party or the other, whoever is in power at the time, must end the filibuster rule permanently. It has to be majority rule and that will lay it back at the feet of the public to vote...

Agreed! That way things would get done, whether for good or for bad, depending on your pov. This would lay the success or failure directly at the feet of the senators and ultimately the voters. Then the voters would think twice about who they vote for and the consequences thereof when they see...

Spot on! If one really wants to stick to the tithing commands given to Israel they better understand that is more than just 10% of their weekly check. No, it's not about a number, it's about giving in faith for God's work. I once was teaching on traditions in my senior adult SS class and when...

I'm not sure I follow this reasoning. What they knew about what? Jesus?

Hey brother! I spent quite a few weeks in a personal conversation with a Catholic friend on the subject of Sola Scripture. It was time well spent which in the end, after a thorough attempt to debunk the position, was left standing strong. The purpose of this thread is to get to the heart of...

But you said when you sin you lose your salvation COMPLETELY (your emphasis, not mine). So explain yourself if as you say, you are not sin free???? Not sure your making any sense here. Sin equals suffering, both now and eternally. How do they cheapen it? We find some agreement :) Loving...

This is an interesting view. So you see salvation as a two way agreement between man and God. What is man's part, or in other words, what is it that you do to gain or keep your salvation with Christ?

Welcome! You have listed quite a bit of material to discuss so I will just go one point at a time so nothing gets lost in the conversation. I'm sure some of these points can be explained in pretty short order and then I will post your next point(s) Would you say you were lost for those 30...

I gather two things from this answer; 1. You don't believe you sin much, maybe even go months or years without a sin?? 2. You COMPLETELY lose your salvation when you do sin, thus, you need to be born again all over again, again?? Is this correct? If not please unpack your answer...

Wow! Your a prophet of God also! I think I will just count on Jesus to do my judgment ;) I'll let him deal with the Pharisees.

You missed answering this question twice now...Have you yourself ever stepped in and out of salvation?

Well, actually you did not. Let's break it down then. Tell me what Lucifer and Adam had to be saved from before they fell?

Wouldn't everyone be lost then? You do sin don't you?

Your right, I did not ask this at all. I did not ask this either. My question are not difficult, nor are they unclear. Let's be honest and have an honest conversation. I have been saved for 45 years now and not one day was I not. How long have you been saved now and have you yourself stepped...

You really did not answer within the proper context of what we both know is the meaning of "saved" and "Once Saved". You have to be saved from something. Lucifer and Adam fell to sin, Lucifer as an Angel and not a human being was sealed by God forever damned, no chance of being saved, I believe...

So by freewill you can just step in and out of salvation? Why would you choose to be saved from damnation and then the next day say "oh, I choose today to not be saved from damnation, I would like hell instead please". ??? Have you yourself ever stepped in and out of salvation?

So how do you believe one loses their salvation once having been born of God?