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And you keep accusing me of deflections and dodges? Do you want to start a thread on Final Authority? Go for it! You guys point to all the denominations and divisions caused by rejecting the RCC. What a joke! Just look at Catholics, they are so all over the place with practicing and defending...

So they did not say "The Catholic Church has no power to damn anyone to hell (that, of course, is each individual's unique prerogative - if you go to hell, you choose to go there)," ?? I did bold it for you so you would not miss it. YES! There you go! Just what the article said and just what I...

Haven't seen you address the OP slap down yet.....is the website's answer a lie?

"This use of the term anathema has a very precise meaning: Let him be cut off from the Church, not let him be damned to hell. And this is done by the Church in her wisdom as a way of trying to bring the one in error to his senses - before it's too late and he is damned to hell by virtue of his...

Not my mind my friend. Tis your mind that wants to be a Catholic but does not want to follow their declarations. Tis you who says no faith is needed, yet you say you are a Catholic and the RCC says it most certainly is needed. Plus works of course...

Who gets to be the "official"?

So you do not believe in the RCC's declarations? It's a crap shoot and we will just let God decide. Well that's fine, but then do not go about declaring the RCC is any final authority on Christian doctrines, for you do not really believe it then.

Persecute them? Neither do I. Nor JW's nor Mormons. However I do go after false teachings.

How do I fit in then? When I became interested in the Bible I challenged every doctrine presented to me. In fact, this is what led me to study the Bible, I was challenged about my own beliefs. I did not believe the Trinity, the Son of God or the Gospel because anyone or any religion told me to...

The question is not why do I discount the false teaching of salvation by works? The question is why do I choose to go to hell for saying justification is by faith alone? Right? Don't you agree with the answer given in the Catholic website? There are plenty of Catholics on the BB reading these...

No. The only association I have with Catholics is on this BB. It is quite helpful to have them here for it helps us see the actual result of RCC teachings.

That's interesting. You don't know.....But you follow them on your imagination. How do you suppose millions of Christians came to understand these truths who have never read any of these counsel declarations, but only the Scriptures?

Does the Church condemn those who disagree with its teachings? Ask any Catholic and he will say "of course not!". The RCC has declared "If anyone says that the sinner is justified by faith alone, meaning that nothing else is required to cooperate in order to obtain the grace of justification...

I have no idea what you are talking about. You are arguing against something never insinuated. Now here is what I actually asked you.....

What method did they use to decide these basics? But you said ALL Christians of today continue to believe the basic doctrines of Christianity??? Aren't Baptist and other non-Catholic Christians part of the universal Church Jesus Christ began?

You are dead on pointing out the RCC sins here Bob. However, your church is supporting abortion in it's own way no matter how you try to justify it in your own mind. And I will add that the majority of "professing" Christians of all sects are guilty of supporting abortion through our...

I'm curious as to why the Holy Spirit/God is not part of your Final Authority belief system. I'm going to assume you will say the Church is lead by the Holy Spirit. I guess we then need to identify what you mean by the Church, it cannot mean every Christian I assume, not even every Catholic. By...

It is sarcasim seeing how funny it is you misused that verses as the "you" being the church. Obviously the "you" is the disciples Jesus chose to deliver His Word, with the exception of Judas whom Jesus dismissed. But back to the topic at hand...maybe you can help Utilyan out a bit... Can you...

Oh, then when you posted "He who hears you, hears me....." said the Lord. (Luke 10-16) you did not mean me personally. Who did Jesus mean?

I believe these two great commandments favor my position.... "If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha."