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As To MANUSCRIPTS, there are none older than the fourth century, and the oldest two uncial MSS. Vaticanus and Sinaiticus are without those twelve verses. Of all the others (consisting of some eighteen uncials and some six hundred cursive MSS. which contain the Gospel of Mark) contain these...

When did I say a translation?

I believe both did, I believe spiritual death was immediate and the physical came later. Does it say Adam and Eve ate the actual plants or did they eat the fruit/things produced by the plants?

I think you completely failed to realize my point.

Because the TR/KJV is supported overwhelmingly by Ancient Translations and Early Church Fathers' quotations.

It's ok! :thumbs:

No. 1. Assumptions are behind all dating methods. There is no guarantee that something has not tampered the "clocks" of nature such as the Genesis flood.we must understand that all set dating methods have a set of assumptions. If we wish to remain scientific, in order to have an accurate...

Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them. Clarke says It is very likely that the skins out of which their clothing was made were taken off animals whose blood had been poured out as a sin-offering to God; for as we find Cain and Abel...

Why do you think it's naive to think that Heathns would do that? Have you ever heard of the Queen James Bible? this is a perfect example of exactly that happening. I never said all the changes were from Heathens. Im just saying that even if Christians never took away from God's word, that does...

No. no. No. There is no evidence of a "Cambrian Explosion" And Science is something that is observable and can be proven, Science cannot prove the age of the earth period. What "science" does is try and date the age of the earth based on assumptions: things like assuming that Carbon decay rate...

And you base this on what biblical evidence or scripture?

Yes I find it hard to believe that Christians would take away from the text, but I also do not see any true bible believing Christian adding either, both have warnings on the scriptures... However, the unsaved and lost would definately change the scriptures and add or take away from them. Don't...

Did not God also curse the earth after Adam's sin? It's obvious that Adam's sin is what brought Physical and Spiritual Death into the world. Yes there is a spiritual death and a physical death. but Sin brings both.

Nowhere do any of those scriptures indicate that God will only preserve his word in the Greek MSS exclusively. Just because God warns people from taking away from the scriptures does not mean he intended to preserve them in the Greek MSS exclusively.. You are making a very big jump and you...

There's a complete difference between different Gospels who are written by different authors from different perspectives being different, and what we are dealing with in Sinaiticus and Vaticanus. Honestly your logic on this statement is ridiculous and I can't even begin to explain how that...

Van, Sin entered the world through Adam, and we know that sin brings death.There was no sin in the world and thus no death until Adam brought sin into the world...I posted verses that say this.Also note that the the first recorded instance we have a of an animal dying in the bible is a direct...

How can anyone believe in the bible and evolution if there were animals in the garden of Eden before death came into the world? Remember that there were animals before Adam and Eve's sin because Adam named all the animals and THEN Eve was created. Remember that the theory of evolution requires...

When the 2 main older manuscripts disagree with each other in over 3,000 places in the Gospel alone, Yes we do not view them as being accurate.

No I think really the correct thing to do is to not pray at all since God's will is going to be done no matter what and human beings really don't have free will anyway. /sarcams :tonofbricks: :BangHead:

You forgot about ancient translations of the bible in addition to the latin. many readings that have little Greek MSS support do have support in the ancients translations. Nobody ever said God's word has to be preserved in the Greek MSS.. Jonathan I think what you do is represent the issue of...