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And.....OR is absolutely correct, other than my belief that "Arminianism" isn't "wrong" as he says...He is absolutely correct.:wavey::godisgood:

By defining heresy other than simply "wrong"...It is indeed "wrong"...but doesn't classify as "heresy"....The Pentecostals are "wrong" with their views about "speaking in tongues" and what-not...but they aren't "heretics" for it...They MAY be...if they make said issues Salvific, but not merely...

Not addressed to ME, by any means... But I would rather be a Calvinist...than an Arminian who thinks that "Open Theism" is consistent with "Arminianism".....It isn't.... I classify myself as an Arminian. I classify myself as "Molinistic" Open Theism is INCONSISTENT with EITHER I do...

If there is a better and more accurate or succinct way of stating these truths....Then, I personally am unaware of them...:thumbsup::wavey::godisgood:

There's a "can of worms"............ Personally, I don't consider Open Theism heresy, but neither do I consider it "Arminianism" either. "Open Theists" need to decide what camp they belong in, or they need to merely create their own "Camp". "Arminianism"...to my understanding, grants...

It is the nature of "Free-Will" that to "allow" God to rule over you has intrinsic meaning.... It is not the nature of man to "allow" God to rule over them. No, If it were...then they had no freedom either to "choose" or not to "choose" to rebel or obey by eating the fruit. Adam quite...

I told you to back away from this in a PM didn't I Luke....You didn't listen............. I was absolutely right Luke...and I demand that you admit as much.....I told you to not reason with this sort as there was no way of winning didn't I?????????? The "chip on their shoulder" sort cannot...

Of course....there is no article in the Constitution which "allows" for seccession....No reasonable "secessionst" would argue that there were.....Then again, there were no laws passed by the Parliament of Great-Britain and signed on to by the King of England which permitted any Colony of His...

No doubt, local Legislators and politicians will have to get in to the game at some point....We do not disagree here. I am not dedicated to the idea of some "seccessionist" movement myself at present mainly because I truly believe that the American Population simply hasn't the stones to do...

Not "Specifically".......I just know that little or nothing he says makes sense or is even relevant to the conversation: One is incapable of intelligently responding to inane statements....that is how I would define them... You are right, I don't doubt.

Don't debate with that one....you cannot possibly win.......It's like arguing with Gumby.....Zaac will morph himself into any concievable position to avoid the meaning of words....Just ignore it.

You have a good point....but, I don't honestly think that declaring "marshall law" will do him any good at that point...."Marshall Law" requires the force of the military....My contention is that at least 8% of the Military is comprised of Texans...and the next 72% are comprised of guys from my...

Agreed about THIS half of the sentence...... Dis-agreed about THIS HALF of the Sentence...All words have meaning, and they cannot be hap-hazardly strung-together in a sequence in order to prove something not explicitly contained in the proposition you are proposing...It is a shameless...

SATURN......You and I are Not so very apart on these issues....I agree with you politically (for the most part)....but, I guess, I am debating your political theory, at least as it regards the Unites States Government specifically.....There are SERIOUS legitimacy issues involved in a...

MMMM....One problem exists for Obama. Obama could NOT, I mean COULD not...."attack" his own countrymen "In Force"...Yes, Reno could use the ATF against a negligibly defended compound in No-where Texas...But The U.S. Military would NOT attack it's own people. Nor, IMO would the U.S. military...

Zaac..........I know you don't mean to do so, but you are consistently speaking out of both sides of your mouth on this board. You fail to distinguish in any way what the appropriate use of governmental power is, and the appropriate place for Christian Principles in said Government. You have...

This is an un-fairly mis-construed solution...."Secession" isn't the same thing as a "Take-my-ball-and-go-home"....I am as much a "patriot" as anyone here...but I understand the notion of the FREE ASSOCIATION of SOVEREIGN STATES. Just listen to the name of the Nation "United States"....They are...

My understanding is precisely what "Nazi" is (by definition): "National Socialist Workers Party" You may "bed to differ" all you want...but Nazi's were Socialists by definition...Literally...by definition.

Does it make sense to say to you that....even though I think you set out to "state" or "prove" some things in your O.P. poem, that "technically" I might take issue with....I still REALLY LIKED your poem.... I didn't "propositionally" completely "Agree" with all of it's assumptions per...