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    How am I condemned?

    He did, I hadn't check the email. My bad
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    How am I condemned?

    I know , but in the discussion Jesus has quoting this verse in Mark it does not fit as rulers and suggest Jesus was not aware of the Jews desire to kill him. It is not rulers,( they were rulers anyway ) or Jesus was wrong. It is elohyim, The" sons of god" in Job and Gen. It is more than human...
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    Why did God create the Universe?

    We know that Gen 1 creation story does not include Heaven of God's aboad because of Job 38:7 when some beings already existed and reacted with creation . So Why did God create the physical universe if Heaven already existed?
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    How am I condemned?

    maybe the tread is dying?
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    How am I condemned?

    This verse, 7“Nevertheless you will die like men God was speaking to the congregation, Would he state this if hey were already men?
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    How am I condemned?

    Please explain your lack of input and the reason. Thank you for the PM
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    How am I condemned?

    sure there is, try Psalms 82 to start
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    How am I condemned?

    yes, but they consider it all good, I consider our fall was there ,in that state
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    How am I condemned?

    How did angels sin?
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    Here's you chance Protestants

    yes, and many are having a midnight candle service at Christmas , Theu do not know who they are as Baptists nor the history,
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    OSAS

    John 8 44 is spoken to the Pharisee in Jhn 8:13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true. He is talking the those that believe on Him.Jhn 8:31Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my...
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    OSAS

    I was born to my father. My fellowship with my father might strain, but I cannot change that I am born into the family, I cannot to retain sonship, It is not dependent on mt actions. It is secure. My part of the relationship needs constant attention
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    Here's you chance Protestants

    We do not want to disappoint the one we love. Salvation is not dependent on our actions, Our action are dependent on our salvation.
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    How am I condemned?

    no , souls are the eternal spiritual beings, the real you in a tempory human vessel, We sinned before being human(and afterward) We are condemned and awaiting eternal punishment, Humanity, instead of being our folly, is part of and necessary for salvation.
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    Here's you chance Protestants

    no not Bodmils not Cathars try Wikipedia
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    How am I condemned?

    There is no previous Adam . spiritually there is no kindred, We are unique( no two alike) individually created beings We are spirits, (souls), in human vessels
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    Here's you chance Protestants

    C.H. Spurgeon well summarized our position: We believe that the Baptists are the original Christians. We did not commence our existence at the reformation, we were reformers before Luther or Calvin were born; we never came from the Church of Rome, for we were never in it, but we have an...
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    How am I condemned?

    I use sripture and logic to present this type of presentation. man being in God's image is beimg a spiritual being, God is spirit Do you believe angels existed before humans? What about fallen angels , did they exist as spiritual beings?
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    How am I condemned?

    It is difficult to turn from error from our Church teachings which we have defended so well I believe pre existance no only to be correct but a well hidden secret used by the devil within the church I am not looking for God, That relationship was restored long ago.
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