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This is not inline with Gnostics who surmised all physical is bad anfdtherefore Jesus was not physical but an spiritual illusion. He was a physical being, as we are. We share in His death, He is a spiritual being , as we are. He was God in the flesh, We are souls in the flesh

This is scriptural it is not humanistic, as we have been taught. We all believe the soul will exist without the body in Heaven sfter physical death. I am just repeating what Jresus said, plainly. Who are you arguing with?

Isa 42:7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

mormons , JW's and Islam and others want to bring earth to Heaven. We are in prison condemned instead we are offered redemption. Even the word redeem suggests a previous relationship

sorry , I replied out of order, I realize sarx means flesh just as Jesus did not say man but οὐδείς which means no one or nothing. you do not realize what I am saying, I am declaring I and totally bad, I got condemned in heaven. The purpose of physical creation is to redeem us. God did all...

no, I am not and they only do not teach this. They equate humabity as a necessary part of God plans for heaven. Humanity is necsessary for salvation for lost souls. Thgey are actually close to Islam in overall teaching

of course, I forgot sins of omission, where we should have done something but did not.

Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Pro 8:36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death. 1Co 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. fornication is a trespass against the body, We can sin...

I am familiar with British humor, I watch Time Team , Perot , etc. Jesus said "man" He actually said , You judge the flesh , I do not

I amnot separating but, God gave us bodies at the time and place of His choice. Did we exist before our bodies? Heb 2:14¶ Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power...

when were we in unbelief? Christ as a man is part of salvation, humanity is the method of salvation, How did we come to need salvation ? Jesus said we were condemned already. Jesus said He does not judge man. yet we are condemned, destined for the lake of fire , prepated for the devil...

the verse Iconoclast provided 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. being human is the first condition to salvation,

I was, actually trying to get other answers, you were condemned as a spirit not a man. So the only way I can see to fufill these verses is you existed as a spirit before being a man. hard to swallow?

you are right,, first born of water , then of spirit to be saved. Flesh and blood cannot see the kingdom of God. It is spiritual. Sin is spiritual , not physical, The physical is effected by the spiritual. but your body dos not sin. You had to be "condemned already" as a spirit, before being...

if I condemned myself, I wasn't condemned "already"

Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God Are you saying man is not condemned until After death? Man is not condemned now? but that is as a man, anyway?

Thanks, How am I condemned "already" ? I am a man

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